[Mariner]

The Chinese government is rational, circumspect and not prone to hyperbole.

Grave means grave.

The RO has been reported anywhere from 1.9 to 3.8.

That's wildfire in high wind.

And "accelerating" is a very bad sign.

[Black Agnes]

For him to admit, publically, (and not through some health department proxy) that there’s a problem...means they (and likely we) are fscked.

At this point there probably isn’t much use in avoiding the disease. Our beloved state department is apparently going to bring back several thousand vectors and we still haven’t stopped incoming flights.

[OKSooner]

RO?

[redgolum]

The Chinese culture is a “Face” culture. You don’t admit anything is wrong until you have to.

For Xi to go in public and say this, means it is logarithmicly worse.

As in I suspect deaths and infections are a log mean or two higher than being stated. You don’t quarantine 56 million people over a few thousand infected.

Guys, we are in something very concerning. No one did this for the Ebola or marburg out breaks. No one did this over SARS.

For a Face culture to openly state this is like the pilot saying “Smoke em if you got em, see you on the ground!” during a flight.

[null and void]

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

[HangnJudge]

The Cat is out of the bag

[mikey_hates_everything]

4% of 1.5B is 60M. Mao killed more than that.

[Karl Spooner]

[CIB-173RDABN]

We (the public) don’t have much information to base any decision on, and what information we do have can be untrue.

We can assume that Xi Jinping is getting more information (and perhaps more accurate) and he decides to issue a warning, then we should take him serious.

We will not get the true numbers out of China.

However, the virus has already been carried around the world.

If the death toll around the world begins to rise it will not be kept a secret for long. Either way we will know more in about two weeks.

[LouieFisk]

Beijing News are reporting that tomorrow, all inter-provincial (interstate) road passenger transport into/from Beijing will be shut down indefinitely “to prevent and control the new coronavirus pneumonia epidemic”.

[GOPJ]

... "accelerating" is a very bad sign.

If you watch their actions you can see they're 'off the wall' freaked out about this...

[bitt]

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[SpaceBar]

Time to dust of Poe's The Masque of the Red Death.

[gandalftb]

Here is a link to a daily report being done on the worlwide spread of the disease:
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https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/01/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/
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There are the beginning rumors that this was a lab created disease. Not likely, as 6 of the first 7 patients were vendors at the Wuhan seafood market . They sell bats there for food.
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This virus shares 80% of the SARS virus, its closest relative. It has a 96% match with a known virus in fruit bats. Snakes are not the origin.
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This virus is much weaker than SARS but has some unusual traits. It is an RNA rather than a DNA virus like smallpox. That means that it mutates very quickly. Current patients are showing a 4th generation mutation from the original patients amonth ago.
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That makes vaccines very difficult to be effective.
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The new virus also has a very high binding energy to human tissue, about 4 times higher than SARS. That means that infection is far more likely when exposed. In fact, there are about 40% new patients every day, that is extraordinary.
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As usual, vulnerable people are more likely to die. Most people will be able to quickly fight off the virus.

[odawg]

There has got to be more than just 41 people die from the disease for them to be using that kind of language.

[catnipman]

“The RO has been reported anywhere from 1.9 to 3.8. “

i had to look that one up, turns out it’s R0, not RO ...

[goodnesswins]

Gee...wonder if the Leftists here will figure out this is why you don’t let every Tran, Dik, and Jose in the country.

[blam]

[ifinnegan]

“The Chinese government is rational, circumspect and not prone to hyperbole.”

Seriously, laughed for a minute at that. Perhaps the funniest stupid thing ever written at FR.

[stuck_in_new_orleans]

If he’s saying this then that means it’s twice as bad as he’s admitting.

[grey_whiskers]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/lab-researcher-rcmp-national-microbiology-lab-1.5212851

Last July, the RCMP kicked out two Chinese researchers.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3761093 says it was for sending Level-4 viruses to the Wuhan facility in China.

...oh btw. The husband worked with coronavirus.

Also this:

Looks like Patient 0 had no tie to the animal market.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...avirus-chinese

Guess why the Chinese are going ...err, batshit crazy, trying to contain this?