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If They Are So Alarmed By Climate Change, Why Are They So Opposed To Solving It?
Forbes ^ | February 18, 2020 | by Michael Shellenberger

Posted on 02/18/2020 6:50:13 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What concerns me most is the growing acceptance even by some conservatives that “climate change” is somehow human caused. Yes, our climate changes, but the major forces driving our climate and its variations are beyond human intervention e.g. changes in solar output. This whole CO2 and therefor “carbon” are wrecking the planet idea is bunk. CO2 is a TRACE gas in our atmosphere at levels of only about 400 parts per MILLION. Most CO2 comes from natural sources and as many of use learned in grade school CO2 is a plant food. All green plants depend on CO2 and slightly higher levels of CO2 cause green plants to flourish.

While there is no question that we should clean up our environment and not let it become like that in China or India, the notion that we must resort the to all sorts of Rube Goldberg devices to scrub carbon and thus save the planet is nuts. Instead blighting the landscapes with forests of wind turbine eco-crucifixes or paving over green fields with acres of solar panels, neither of which could possibly fill but a fraction of our electric needs, we should be planting forests and moving to clean and yes safe nuclear power. We have demonstrated that even coal, oil and natural gas can be used cleanly. The CO2 emissions in the US are down from even a few years ago without resorting to banning of coal and oil or forcing the public to buy electric cars. Let’s stop begging Mother Gaea for forgiveness every time a molecule of carbon is somehow emitted and recognize CO2 in part per million levels is not changing our climate.

21 posted on 02/18/2020 8:25:54 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Leep

The climate is changing here in PA.

Spring is around the corner! Lots of dead skunks on the road.


22 posted on 02/18/2020 8:28:09 AM PST by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s not about that. It’s about destroying the industrialized civilization that we have. Unfortunately, that means that no one will be working, and no one will earn money, and the government will not be able to tax it, and the government will be “forced” to confiscate whatever wealth remains and redistribute it.

I. E. Communism, which is the end goal of this $hit.


23 posted on 02/18/2020 8:28:52 AM PST by I want the USA back (Journalists Take Bits of Reality and Slot them into the Existing Script. -Friedman.)
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To: ealgeone

Unfortunately it will not make any difference how much money any one may be willing to spend, may this a Bill Gates or Bezos as these events are pre-destined and cyclical and hence unavoidable.

For anyone who paid any attention this shouldn’t come as a surprise as weather patterns world wide been having a crazy streak. While there may have been a warm up in the Antarctic, camels in Saudi Arabia have been stomping around in snow. Or some one in a motor boat going down a main drag in Kuwait City. All this along with an increase in earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, flooding, droughts and unusual amounts of snow is just an “Appetizer” of what lies ahead as we are once again at the beginning of the repetitive 3600 year signature cycle.

It is the same cycle which gave us the TEN PLAGUEs in ancient Egypt and eventually led to the EXODUS of the Jews. The catch is and was that these unusual events were not just limited to ancient Egypt as ancient Chinese records point to similar events there as well. In other words crazy and unexpected things were taking place world wide at that time, just as they do now. The problem is that we are just at the beginning of this cycle and the worst is yet to come. By no means do I take delight in seeing it come and wish with all my heart to be dead wrong, but what already is taking place speaks for itself.

Needless to say official sources will never admit what really is taking place for obvious reasons, and most people still think this to be a joke, until it will strike home and so far the US has been fairly lucky, in comparison what has been taking place in other parts of the world. And for the ones blaming all those crazy weather patterns on humans and what they may have done wrong in regards to pollution etc., it may be interesting to hear their explanation how this reflects on the increase in earthquakes as well as volcanic eruptions?

And by he way if we go back from the year 2020 plus 1500 BC (3520) the time of the 10 PLAGUES we are just shy of 80 years of the full 3600 cycle. Needless to say a few years one way or another may be lost in the translation, but overall we are pretty close on target for his event, something what most likely will cause a lot of damage and problems.


24 posted on 02/18/2020 8:32:00 AM PST by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER)
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To: ealgeone

Anybody that is opposed to nuclear energy isn’t really serious about so called “climate change”. Nuclear is the only clean energy source that’s viable on a mass scale, wind and solar are small niches that can’t supply the needed energy.

They’re also preaching to the wrong crowd. If Greta was really concerned about climate change she’d be protesting in China and India where the real problems are coming from, not in the U.S. Forcing Americans to drive electric cars isn’t going to do squat when China and India are opening the spigots on more pollution every day. These fools aren’t going to mess with China though, they’ll cut off her pigtails and ship her body back with the kidneys cut out. They’re only going to go where it’s safe, but that’s not where the problems lie.


25 posted on 02/18/2020 1:31:07 PM PST by GaryCrow
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To: GaryCrow

China wouldn’t give her the time of day. The Chicoms are going to do what’s best for China as are the Indians.


26 posted on 02/18/2020 1:37:55 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

‘They’ never solve anything.

‘They’ just use it to cause way too many to consent to ‘their’ control.

The evidence is everywhere on the blue portions of the map in the USA and the destroyed civilizations of the rest of the world.

Suckers of the world, useful idiots, we are surrounded.


27 posted on 02/18/2020 1:39:30 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: youngidiot
The environment is not the point!

If they were serious they'd be advocating an Amish lifestyle but actually they hate the Amish because of their conservative values. This is nothing but a leftist power grab.

28 posted on 02/18/2020 1:44:42 PM PST by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yesterday, while living in Kansas, it was close to 60 degrees. I was at the super market returning my cart and I ran in to a bunch of strangers. I said “Isn’t Global Warming wonderful?” I got laughter and smiles.


29 posted on 02/18/2020 1:46:15 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: ealgeone

The Obamas just bought a seashore mansion. They know the sea isn’t rising.


30 posted on 02/18/2020 1:48:44 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: RubinBoomer
The world is fighting climate change. The world will always be fighting climate change.

Oceania is at war with Eastasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

31 posted on 02/18/2020 1:50:45 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

+1


32 posted on 02/18/2020 1:56:45 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: colorado tanker

Back in 1984 it was going to be an ice age.


33 posted on 02/18/2020 2:49:06 PM PST by RubinBoomer (Please be nice. I am new here. I'm open to doing things the FR way, just need to know.)
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