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The Great Coronavirus War Is Upon Us
Townhall.com ^ | March 12, 2020 | Victor, Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/12/2020 4:41:18 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: AndyJackson
Exactly.

The folks here even today still saying "But X # die of [car accidents, ordinary flu, etc] every year" shows how far we have to go with education. If this many freepers don't get it, imagine how this will translate down in the hood and barrio.


61 posted on 03/12/2020 6:00:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: AndyJackson

I’m flat out mocking this over the TOP the reaction.
The only group that i know that CREATE PANIC are leftist and RINOs (politicians and or frauds).


62 posted on 03/12/2020 6:01:35 AM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: Kaslin

I had the H1N1 (pig flu).

Probably caught it flying. I was never sicker in my life, including times when I’ve had stomach virus that were causing rapid exits from both ends.


63 posted on 03/12/2020 6:01:58 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Leep

Please read 44, then keep yucking it up.


64 posted on 03/12/2020 6:01:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Diogenesis; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
the viral invaders always will have the DEMOCRATS

I was going to quibble that would only be when a Republican was in the White House, but then I remembered obama let a thousand Americans die of swine flu before declaring an emergency. And I also remember obama deliberately importing active Ebola patients.

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

65 posted on 03/12/2020 6:03:24 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Travis McGee

That is the most important graph.


66 posted on 03/12/2020 6:03:25 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: silverleaf
it took an intelligent designer.
A human one.

That's the way to bet.

67 posted on 03/12/2020 6:06:54 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: AndyJackson

“Grey_whiskers and Travis and I are not advocating panicking. We are all advocating strong effective public health measures. NOW! and trying to educate some reckless fools like yourself why this is necessary.”

LOL, educate me about what? How to scream “we’re all gonna die”!!. Show me where I once spoke out against taking precautionary measures? You can save the time because I have NOT.

I am talking about the unbridled claims of gloom and doom and forecasts of the end of everything in just 10 days or so. I have seen it all before and detailed in a previous post those occurrences.

Could this time be different? Sure but screaming at the sky does nothing except panic those who cannot reason for themselves and who forget history.

You have allowed yourself to panic as is seen by your descending into name calling.

Try and get a grip and tell your hysterical friends the same.


68 posted on 03/12/2020 6:09:54 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15

People are BS and purely political.

Virus is what it is.

And it’s honest, which gives it a distinct advantage over human beings.


69 posted on 03/12/2020 6:11:25 AM PDT by chris37 (Impeach Chief Obama Injustice Roberts, a fraud, a clown and a tyrant!)
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To: gdc61

What an ignorant post. *rme*


70 posted on 03/12/2020 6:11:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Leep

71 posted on 03/12/2020 6:12:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: billyboy15

Where are all of the smuggled out videos from China the last two weeks? If we accept the panicked projections of a month ago there should be hundreds of thousands of Chinese deaths, tens of millions of Chinese on respirators. It has obviously peaked in China. Remember the claims a month ago that it will ravage sub Saharan Africa with millions of deaths? No, that didn’t happen either. We are now at the point where we can compare the scare projections with facts. Just like with climate change, the panic mongers forget what they were saying would be happening now and go on to the next dire projection.


72 posted on 03/12/2020 6:13:39 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: Leep

I don’t doubt for a minute that many on the left and in the media (but I repeat myself) are secretly rejoicing over this situation. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t simultaneously true that this is a serious situation that merits everyone pitching in to change their behavior.

While the left is happy to capitalize, that doesn’t mean we should act recklessly as if that will somehow create a political advantage. In fact by taking that approach you work counter to your political interests in addition to our collective healthcare interest (to get this behind us as quickly as possible).

Bottom line - this isn’t about politics folks. Better get used to that idea.


73 posted on 03/12/2020 6:13:46 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: billyboy15

The graph at 61 is the entire point.

We are not trying to spread panic, but to get us off the Italian Autostrada and onto a path more similar to Taiwan and S. Korea.

If you can’t understand the graph at 61, well, I don’t know what to say.


74 posted on 03/12/2020 6:13:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: chimera
it is likely that the feedback mechanisms will include public response (containment and prevention)...

Like that Hawaiian judge overruling the European travel ban?

That kind of public response?

75 posted on 03/12/2020 6:16:31 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: hardspunned
This is how China got it under control.

It's basically the opposite of what Italy did.

South Korea and Taiwan chose a path much closer to China's strict quarantine, and have kept their hospitals from being overrun, and their death rate below 1%.


76 posted on 03/12/2020 6:17:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

The problem..ALMOST ALWAYS..is not the sensible people.
On one hand it is reckless people.
and on the other it’s greedy or self serving politicians.
As a country our so called leaders should never have allowed ten of millions of illegals to occupy our country.
Many who have NEVER been tested for anything ..let alone deadly virus and the like.
Meanwhile our politicians who fought for open borders are now flailing their arms over a virus that has killed less people, by far, than illegals have.
As far as the reckless people..which includes illegals but also our own government school miseducated youth.
Many who can’t even tell time ..let alone be bothered with anything even remotely approaching a pandemic.
Does anyone think the people that actually need to be reached (the slobs who don’t wash their hands after they use the toilet ..let alone wash their hand at all) are going to heed any warning from our leaders?


77 posted on 03/12/2020 6:17:56 AM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: Travis McGee

“In the hallway, meanwhile, there are another 15 people waiting who are already hardly breathing and need oxygen.”

I was once in the hallway of a major trauma hospital, hard to tell, but I’m guessing their were 20 of us. Then, just like the movies, they came running in with about 6 stretchers from a major car crash that had been life-flighted in.

My injury turned out to be very minor - missed my jugular by 2 cm - but they wanted to be sure. Most of the others in the hallway were drug overdoses that just needed time to wear off.

I can’t even imagine what it would have been like if all of us had been gasping for air, waiting for the next ventilator to free up.


78 posted on 03/12/2020 6:19:44 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: RoosterRedux
You are correct, the covid19 issue is being played out at many levels and a lot of it very hard ball political warfare.

China has no upside in helping the rest of the world while they try to keep from sinking. They are doing everything they can to make sure we share their pain.

Team Trump is using their tactics against them to make them pay a price by accelerating the economic decoupling from China and bringing more Off shored industry back home.

The Saudis and Russians are definitely interested in breaking the backs of American frackers with low oil prices, but they have to survive too and can only stand low oil prices for so long.

The Europeans have been stoking the media fear frenzy to sink President Trump so President Trump just took them at their words. If things are sooooo bad, better shut down travel to Europe for 30 days. If they actually are as bad as we are being led to believe, great. If they aren’t, even better.

The EU travel ban is going to really hurt the EU economy.

79 posted on 03/12/2020 6:21:02 AM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentiai)
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To: Kaslin

What if the Chinese government along with players such as Soros and Bloomberg could use the WuFlu as biowarfare against us and the Trump Presidency in order to get their power back? They can buy every important stock at a steep discount and truly own the global market with no fear of losing it again.
Evil using its most powerful, deceptive tactics.


80 posted on 03/12/2020 6:22:49 AM PDT by tinamina
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