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Why is COVID-19 worse than past viruses?
Penn State University ^ | 04.02.2020 | Larry55

Posted on 04/02/2020 1:06:02 PM PDT by Larry55

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To: Sam Gamgee

That Swine flu thing during 0bama we hardly heard word one on deaths and hysteria. 0bama golfed and the media thought how wonderful he’s not over reacting.


61 posted on 04/02/2020 2:21:12 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: 9YearLurker

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=8712


62 posted on 04/02/2020 2:28:01 PM PDT by jstruck (God, Family, Country)
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To: SkyDancer; All
Media hysteria.

Is OAN fueling the hysteria over Covid too?

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63 posted on 04/02/2020 2:29:02 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Larry55

Because it was designed that way.


64 posted on 04/02/2020 2:29:47 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Larry55

It looks to be about twice as contagious as the flu and more than 6 times as deadly, looking at the newest estimates.


65 posted on 04/02/2020 2:31:49 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Larry55

First, your claim that 1 million died of the Hong Kong flu in 6 months, in Asian countries including Vietnam, is based on a newspaper article in the South China Morning Post. February 1968 was also when the Tet offensive was underway in Vietnam. I’m not sure how anyone was able to keep track of flu deaths in Vietnam at that time. Nor is it clear that anyone knows when the first case of Hong Kong flu occurred. But be patient, and we will see some very impressive results from this flu. There were 4,890 deaths yesterday so in 200 days - about 6 months - there’s your 1 million deaths. BTW the death rate is rising every day.


66 posted on 04/02/2020 2:32:19 PM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: foreverfree

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67 posted on 04/02/2020 2:35:14 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Larry55
None of the other viruses were spread by this:


68 posted on 04/02/2020 2:35:59 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Crucial

I hope so???
Otherwise, we have seriously made a mess of our economy over a flu bug.


69 posted on 04/02/2020 2:36:41 PM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: Larry55
I can’t find that data.

You can find the CDC date on the 2017-18 epidemic that was five times worse than the 2009 Swine epidemic that keeps being touted but it's being ignored............

70 posted on 04/02/2020 2:40:37 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (How did I survive the Swine flu and the killer flu of 2017-18 without govt. help?)
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To: snarkytart

It always had that feel to it.


71 posted on 04/02/2020 2:53:46 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Larry55

Chinese are getting smarter in creating deadly virusses?


72 posted on 04/02/2020 2:55:17 PM PDT by 353FMG ( .)
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To: JeanLM

This virus has been in the United States since December.
It is now April.
That is a hell of a lot longer than “one month.”


73 posted on 04/02/2020 2:56:05 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Larry55

SPECULATION:
It kicks off a very aggressive “cytokine storm”. The human body appears to really dislike this little bugger. When in lungs, x#timesx white blood cells are summoned to attack. The collection of WBCs (aka pus) fills the little airbags (alveoli) in the lungs and the patient goes into respiratory failure.

HCQ lessens the cytokine storm reaction.

Summary: ChiComVD-19 results in a pulmonary “auto-immune” disease.


74 posted on 04/02/2020 3:08:04 PM PDT by gasport (Pray for the people of Captive China)
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To: KC_Lion

I agree with you, my FRiend.

However, I TOTALLY understand President Trump going in this direction, as in OVERKILL. He has not let me down, yet, and I don’t expect him to in this situation, either. :)

America is going to come ROARING back to life when this stupidity is over!

However - I am looking through the lens of only having 3 cases and NO deaths in my Cow Town County. AS of today, 31 have died so far in Wisconsin, and they were all old and/or infirm with preexisting/compromised conditions...just like any OTHER flu season!

I would probably have a different opinion of the whole thing if I were trapped like a RAT in NYC or CA or Washington State. :(


75 posted on 04/02/2020 3:50:52 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Larry55

I think it’s because other viruses show their symptoms right away and you can avoid the cougher in the office or on the subway etc.

Covid-19 is apparently the stealth bomber of contagious diseases.


76 posted on 04/02/2020 4:00:40 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn R)
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To: Biggirl

Indeed it may be a bioweapon, there was a paper that came out in Jan 2020 entitled “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag” basically saying that there are 4 spikes with HIV-like proteins. They don’t think this virus is natural. You can download article here:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1

The Institute of Virology in Wuhan has been playing with SARS and HIV. There is a 2010 article, from that lab, entitled “Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) proteins of different bat species confer variable susceptibility to SARS-CoV entry” saying “we extended our previous study to ACE2 molecules from seven additional bat species and tested their interactions with human SARS-CoV spike protein using both HIV-based pseudotype and live SARS-CoV infection assays.” Look for the article here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7086629/

This was 10 years ago!

The circumstantial evidence says the virus came from the Wuhan lab. If so, was the release accidental or intentional?


77 posted on 04/02/2020 4:31:31 PM PDT by uzumaki_naruto
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DoN just relieved the CO of the USS Theodor Roosevelt.

Probably a sizable debrief, checking INTEL, interviews etc... major coup’ on a critical Naval asset, IF the discovery piece picks up on any anomalies.


78 posted on 04/02/2020 4:45:16 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Larry55

Woman brings in her husband sick with fever, choking, hacking cough, breathing hard.

Dr: “Mrs Jones I am sad to say that your husband has passed away.”
Mrs Jones: “OMG! Was it corona virus?”
Dr: “No, it was common flu.”
Mrs Jones: “Well thank God for that!”


79 posted on 04/02/2020 4:58:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Larry55

According to the latest CDC estimate...

Seasonal influenza killed between 24,000 and 62,000 persons in the USA in the last six months.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

I do not recall anyone suggesting that we should shut down the entire country to prevent seasonal influenza deaths.


80 posted on 04/02/2020 5:19:02 PM PDT by zeestephen
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