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To: RetiredArmy

If there really were 21 million deaths, that would explain why people in the know were soiling themselves.

However, if there were only thousands of deaths here, why were there millions in China?

Seems unlikely, but what would I know?


7 posted on 04/18/2020 3:24:32 PM PDT by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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Higher population density, WAY more people dependent on mass transit, no suburbia with built in social distancing.

NYC is showing similar problems as the Chinese had for the reasons they had them.


11 posted on 04/18/2020 3:27:14 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dsc

>However, if there were only thousands of deaths here, why were there millions in China?

1. Strain was more virulent and deteriorated over time.
2. Polluted air in China exacerbated conditions.
3. Reports that Chinese were given Eastern herbal medicine and not any drugs to relieve issues.
4. Hurried responses, leading to quick immolation of convalescents.
5. Village lockdowns were by barricading roads, leading to absolutely no treatment.
6. Secondary deaths (single care providers with children dying, locked inside, thus children also die).


22 posted on 04/18/2020 3:36:27 PM PDT by struggle
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To: dsc
If there really were 21 million deaths, that would explain why people in the know were soiling themselves. However, if there were only thousands of deaths here, why were there millions in China? Seems unlikely, but what would I know?

According to articles I have read, a check of cell phone usage in China indicates 22 million accounts have ceased activity. That's a lot.

These articles claim this is an indication of how many had potentially died of Corona Virus.

28 posted on 04/18/2020 3:44:15 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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Most of the rest of the world believes and practices public and personal sanitation - not in China. And that’s the didfference


37 posted on 04/18/2020 3:51:07 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: dsc

“However, if there were only thousands of deaths here, why were there millions in China?”

I listened to a china “expert” talking about this. He said that 14 million of the accounts were a pay as you go type. They belonged to students, transients, visitors, etc. He said that if they weren’t using the accounts, they weren’t paying for them and they would, eventually, be cancelled. However, the remaining accounts, about six million, he believed were regular accounts, prepaid or post paid. If that many were abruptly cancelled, due to non payment, which appears to be the case, then those account holders, or some percentage of them, were most likely dead. When your population is over 1.5 billion, what percentage of them drop dead of natural causes over a several month period? I found an estimate of China’s death rate in 2019 as 7.5 per thousand. So, would that mean that eleven million people die annually? If so, six million deaths in several months would be normal.


38 posted on 04/18/2020 3:51:53 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (3,000)
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To: dsc
If there really were 21 million deaths, that would explain why people in the know were soiling themselves.

However, if there were only thousands of deaths here, why were there millions in China?


In addition to the explanations given in other posts, I would add that the reason we've not had it as bad is our people went right to work coming up with a stopgap method of slowing the infection, which was the anti-malarial drugs, plus zinc. If the Chinese would have been upfront about it, modern scientists could have helped them, too. Instead, they hid it from the world, and suffered for it.

What I don't get, though, is how Wuhan and the rest of the world got it so bad, but apparently it never made it to Beijing.
56 posted on 04/18/2020 4:31:37 PM PDT by siberianheat
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To: dsc

THe large number is attributable to the idea that each chinese has more than one cell usually and some businesses might have closed. I would gather 3 times less is plausible, and it still is 7 million!


61 posted on 04/18/2020 5:33:51 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: dsc
However, if there were only thousands of deaths here, why were there millions in China?

Two weeks to a month incubation, plus asymptomatic transmission.

Many Millions were already infected before the first symptoms started to appear among the earliest infected people.

All those infected and contagious people were traveling all over, riding trains and planes, working with dozens or hundreds of people, visiting family and friends.

By the time someone showed symptoms, you would have to backtrack to every person they had contacted over the previous month, and all the people that those people had contacted, and so forth.

63 posted on 04/18/2020 5:58:47 PM PDT by meadsjn
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