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Supreme Court rules non-unanimous jury verdicts unconstitutional
The Hill ^ | April 20, 2020 | Harper Neidig

Posted on 04/20/2020 8:25:21 AM PDT by jazusamo

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled that defendants in criminal trials can only be convicted by a unanimous jury, striking down a scheme that has been rejected by every state except one.

The court said in a divided opinion that the Constitution requires agreement among all members of a jury in order to impose a guilty verdict.

"Wherever we might look to determine what the term 'trial by an impartial jury trial' meant at the time of the Sixth Amendment’s adoption—whether it’s the common law, state practices in the founding era, or opinions and treatises written soon afterward—the answer is unmistakable," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in an opinion. "A jury must reach a unanimous verdict in order to convict."

Oregon is the only state left in which defendants can be convicted over the dissent of up to two jurors. Louisiana recently abandoned the practice after more than a century of use.

The ruling overturns the 2016 conviction of a Louisiana man named Evangelisto Ramos. A jury by a 10-2 margin found him guilty of killing a woman in New Orleans. Two years after Ramos's conviction, Louisiana voters approved a constitutional amendment getting rid of non-unanimous jury verdicts.

The new ruling likely means that Ramos could get a new trial.

Five justices joined Gorsuch in ruling the practice unconstitutional. Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Samuel Alito and Justice Elena Kagan dissented from the decision.

Updated at 10:53 a.m.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alito; criminaltrials; gorsuch; judiciary; juries; kagan; scotus; supremecourt; supremes; unanimousverdict
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1 posted on 04/20/2020 8:25:21 AM PDT by jazusamo
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“Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Samuel Alito and Justice Elena Kagan dissented from the decision.”

Interesting split, conservatives and liberals on both sides of the decision.


2 posted on 04/20/2020 8:27:20 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: FewsOrange
Interesting split

IN my opinion, these are the most interesting cases. There must be some really interesting arguments made (and believed) on both sides to have such a split.

Contrast that with all the famous cases, where on the one side you have the plain meaning of the Constitution and on the other you have "but it's not fair" (stomps foot)

3 posted on 04/20/2020 8:30:59 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: FewsOrange

I’m surprised that Thomas agree with this. Unanimous juries is not in the constitution.


4 posted on 04/20/2020 8:31:43 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: FewsOrange

Very interesting, especially Kagan.


5 posted on 04/20/2020 8:31:47 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Timmy

Thomas vote was probably moved by this language from the opinion: “Wherever we might look to determine what the term ‘trial by an impartial jury trial’ meant at the time of the Sixth Amendment’s adoption—whether it’s the common law, state practices in the founding era, or opinions and treatises written soon afterward—the answer is unmistakable,” Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in an opinion. “A jury must reach a unanimous verdict in order to convict.”


6 posted on 04/20/2020 8:39:47 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: gibsonguy

Case reduction. They don’t want to be bombarded by appeals.


7 posted on 04/20/2020 8:40:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: ModelBreaker

Original public meaning.


8 posted on 04/20/2020 8:42:15 AM PDT by jdege
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9 posted on 04/20/2020 8:42:16 AM PDT by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: jazusamo

If you’re innocent get a Judge, if you’re Guilty get a Jury.


10 posted on 04/20/2020 8:44:47 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: jazusamo

A 10 - 2 verdict is not without a reasonable doubt.


11 posted on 04/20/2020 8:45:06 AM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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You nailed it, I think. Reasonable doubt is indicated in a non-unanimous verdict.


12 posted on 04/20/2020 8:47:55 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: immadashell

Amen to that.


13 posted on 04/20/2020 8:53:07 AM PDT by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Case reduction. They don’t want to be bombarded by appeals.”

The simplest answer is usually the right one, isn’t it.


14 posted on 04/20/2020 8:54:32 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: immadashell
A 10 - 2 verdict is not without a reasonable doubt.

What is "reasonable" nowadays with our infantile adult population?

I've seen ridiculous decisions from juries that no adult would condone. We simply have too many unreasonable people nowadays, and jury verdicts can be a crap shoot.

15 posted on 04/20/2020 8:54:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: jazusamo

So, do all supreme court rulings have to be 100% ? / s


16 posted on 04/20/2020 9:01:39 AM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: Salvation

Looks like an Oregon PING...


17 posted on 04/20/2020 9:03:46 AM PDT by Rio
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So I’m assuming this applies to all trials from this date forward.?


18 posted on 04/20/2020 9:11:00 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: immadashell
A 10 - 2 verdict is not without a reasonable doubt.

Unless death is a mandatory punishment, two-thirds is good enough in a court-martial.

19 posted on 04/20/2020 9:15:30 AM PDT by woodpusher
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To: gibsonguy

It’s the reason we have Miranda warnings.
SCOTUS was sick and tired of being bombarded with appeals from defendants who claimed not to know their rights, so they actually went case-shopping for one they could use to impose it as a universal rule. All to reduce their workload. Research it.


20 posted on 04/20/2020 9:21:25 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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