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Dr. Fauci Says Evidence ‘Very Strongly’ Shows Virus Did Not Originate in Wuhan Lab
Epoch Times ^
| 05/05/2020
| Tom Ozimek
Posted on 05/05/2020 12:45:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Wait till the 100% proof positive reports from the Intel community come out proving that it does and his own treasonous connections and others to the CCP! He is a dead man walking!!
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posted on
05/05/2020 2:08:14 PM PDT
by
DarthVader
(Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
To: House Atreides; Regulator; SeekAndFind
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posted on
05/05/2020 2:10:16 PM PDT
by
4Liberty
(CoVid19, n. A seasonal respiratory infection politicized to harm the U.S. economy & its President.)
To: moviefan8
Why does he still have a job? Trump fire his @$$ now. Please. Respectfully, I do not agree.
A better approach is to solicit second opinions, keeping Fauci on board and in the "loop".
Involve other public health physicians and epidemiologists and the like, and have an open discussion.
Firing Fauci gives the Dems a huge win, and delays prudent public health input and planning as we open things up.
That Fauci is completely wrong re the wuhan Lab will damage his rep when all the facts are out, and that's a big thing.
To: SeekAndFind
Fauci’s misdirection here is downright Clintonian.
If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats, and whats out there now is very, very strongly leaning toward this [virus] could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated, he said, adding that the mutation pattern of the virus is highly suggestive of a natural origin.
However, the allegation is that SARS-CoV-2 likely escaped from Wuhan Institute of Virology laboratory (either the Level 2 lab nearby the seafood market or the Fauci-funded Level 4 lab about eight miles distant.) Whether SARS-CoV-2 is a chimera created in the Fauci-funded Wuhan lab or an unaltered specimen from a captured horseshoe bat or collected feces from a horseshoe bat is another issue entirely.
The story about its having escaped from the seafood market doesn’t add up. Horseshoe bats (genus Rhinolophus) are the variety that host SARS-like coronaviruses. Horseshoe bats are microbats that live something like 1000 miles away from Wuhan. The bats in the genus Rhinolophus are not preferred by those who enjoy bat cuisine. They only weigh about 10 grams, which is way too small to be worthwhile. Chinese bat aficionados prefer dishes prepared from the larger bat species in the genera of Cynopterus, Hipposideros, and Rousettus. Furthermore, bat cuisine is only popular in southern and southwestern Chinese provinces (far south of Wuhan.) There is one exception to the popularity of bat in Hubei and other regions: during Chinese New Year, eating bat is thought to bring good luck because the word for bat is similar to the word for luck. However, patient zero for COVID-19 presented in either late November or early December, about two months before Chinese New Year. Dozens of witnesses have reported that bat was never sold in the seafood market.
To: Williams
He cannot possibly be that Fing stupid.
Fauci is not stupid. But he knew that his ABC News interviewer was stupid, and was confident that most ABC News viewers are gullible.
To: Cowboy Bob
He’s not contradicting Trump at all on this. If you read what he’s saying, it is consistent with what Trump has said.
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posted on
05/05/2020 2:22:13 PM PDT
by
RightFighter
(This space for rent)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
“Evidence is very strong that Dr. Falsey funded Coronavirus research at Wuhan.”
The evidence is not merely “very strong”. It is unimpeachable. Many of the Wuhan scientific papers openly acknowledge funding by Fauci’s NIAID as well as other NIH, the US Defense Department, and USAID.
Your tax dollars at work, suckers.
To: SeekAndFind
Fauci trying to cover his butt or a friend’s.
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posted on
05/05/2020 2:27:42 PM PDT
by
b4me
(God Bless the USA)
To: SeekAndFind
To throw you off the head line fuaci is involved at the wuhan virual lab
To: Starboard
Keeping Fauci pissing out on occasion beats having him do the reverse.
Removing him is dumb and would feed much DNC Media stupidity.
No reason for it. President Trump is managing it all.
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posted on
05/05/2020 2:36:31 PM PDT
by
romanesq
(Flubro, from the people who brought you the stupidity of grifters & the letter Q)
To: Swordmaker
I read the “Lab-Made?” article at Medium last week after Bret Weinstein mentioned it on his podcast.
Like you, I got lost but I plugged through to the end.
Dr. Weinstein is the progressive evolutionary biologist who got run off Evergreen College for failing to kowtow to political correctness. He’s a very unusual progress because he seems to be scrupulously intellectually honest. Dr. Weinstein noted that the scientific analysis in the paper is solid. Since my biology education ended in high school, I have to trust his expertise to a large extent.
One thing is certain: Both UNC Chappel Hill and Wuhan Institute of Virology have engaged in “gain-in-function” research involving the creation of coronavirus chimeras and have published papers that document some of their research. Many knowledgeable biologists object to such research, arguing that its risks far outweigh any potential benefit.
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
05/05/2020 2:52:19 PM PDT
by
TBP
(Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
To: SeekAndFind
That’s because his “Gain of Function” research that was outlawed here as too dangerous was moved to China. Then Fauci continued to FUND THE WUHAN LAB with 3.7 million taxpayer dollars.
He is a criminal and should be arrested.
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posted on
05/05/2020 2:53:01 PM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
To: a real Sheila
- COVERED WITH SPIKES to ensure it latches onto those host cells
- LETHAL, especially in elderly people. How convenient since Chinas #1 economic issue facing them is their surging elderly population
- STEALTHY, able to be spread by people who show no symptoms at all, or none for 14 days, ensuring maximum spread.
- EXTREMELY EASY to transmit through air and on surfaces ensuring maximum spread
- HARD TO KILL - as it will survive for days on various surfaces and through high temperatures, ensuring maximum spread
- NOT TREATABLE with the normal methods used to treat flu and pneumonia, therefore using up HUGE medical resources, which can easily break a nation financially
- DOESNT INFECT ANIMALS - this is the big one. What better biological weapon than one that kills all the humans and leaves behind the animals!
Your list is the mostly hype the DEEP STATE and fear mongers have been pushing to keep the sheep controlled and is full of half-truths and outright falsehoods.
When the Novel Coronavirus-19 first charged out of China, we did not know what we were looking at and took the measures as if it was a MONSTER, but as more and more was learned, it became apparent it was NOT THE MONSTER the mainstream media was trumpeting 24/7 is STILL screaming at the top of the progressive Liberal lungs it is.
The first two are only semi-true.
- COVERED WITH SPIKES to ensure it latches onto those host cells. They are not spikes. They are connectors that latch onto receptors on cells. They are more like specifically cut keys that fit into almost unique locks on specific cells, ACE2 cells, which unlocks entry through the cell wall to allow access the cells RNA and DNA replication machinery.
- LETHAL, especially in elderly people. Even among older people, the actual case mortality rate, the possibility of dying for those who contract this disease is only about 5-6%, if that. The overall case mortality rate, even at the start, was less than 2%. We now are looking at an overall case mortality rate that may be as low as 0.1% or less.
Your third point is absolutely true.
- STEALTHY, able to be spread by people who show no symptoms at all, or none for 14 days, ensuring maximum spread. This one is absolutely true, because approximately 95% of those who contract this disease never know theyve had it. However, this is a hallmark of almost any infectious disease. They result in a bell curve of infected persons. At one end are those who are fatally impacted. At the other are those who completely fight off the invasion of the virus. In between are those who are infected who display a range of symptoms from severe to none at all, but recover. The vast majority will have either mild symptoms, discomfort, or not know they are infected.
The next is another half-truth:
- EXTREMELY EASY to transmit through air and on surfaces. It is only airborne, but not extremely easy to transmit through air. Surfaces is much more problematic as it does not survive on surfaces for any appreciable length of time as some other more robust viruses can. It is a fragile virus, being deactivated by exposure to UV light, sunlight, heat, and just exposure to weather. It has not been found to survive longer on any surface longer than a day or so in protected environments. Outside, Meh.
This last three are actually not at all true. In fact they are false.
- HARD TO KILL - COVID19 survives only for a few hours on surfaces. Depending on the surface, and environmental conditions, sometimes only for a few minutes. It actually is remarkably easy to deactivate. (Viruses are not truly living) Sunlight will kill it in minutes. The virus dies in exposure to Ozone. It deactivates in exposure to chlorine. Many chemicals will deactivate it. UV light is deadly to it. Moderate temperatures are not at all friendly to it.
- NOT TREATABLE with the normal methods used to treat flu and pneumonia: It actually does respond to normal methods for treating flu and pneumonia, and is now known to have a lower case mortality rate than some of the more severe influenzas. The CDC has REDUCED the total fatality counts this past week, discounting the COVID19 deaths by removing from the count those who died from other causes, including seasonal influenza, myocardial infarctions, even automobile accidents and murders. A chart on the CDC site shows that at its worst, the overall mortality in the US, during its worst week which ended April 11, was increased over normal expected levels 22%. Its been known since the publication of a scientific paper on a double-blind study in 2005, published by Dr. Faucis own organization that Hydroxychloroquine, in combination with Azithromycin and Zinc was an effective treatment for all versions of Corona virus infections. Dr. Fauci is ignoring his organizations peer-reviewed published science to deny it is. There are several more besides the HCL therapy that are being used effectively around the world, including Ozone Sufflation or IV Ozone therapy, UV blood irradiation, and even high dosage Vitamin D3.
- DOESNT INFECT ANIMALS: The COVID19 receptors actually do, according to a chart I recently saw in a scientific paper, infect the ACE2 cells several species of animals including human beings. Apparently, including, surprisingly Giraffes and hamsters. The claim that it does not is FAKE NEWS. How it affects them is another thing. There are reports of some cats. Specifically tigers are susceptible. Why? Likely, their ACE2 are similar to human ACE2.
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posted on
05/05/2020 2:57:01 PM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
To: silverleaf
this is really mind blowing if you think about it.
Fauci vehemently denying the virus is man made or from the lab.
Trump says there’s alot of evidence that is WAS from the lab.
Gates and Fauci are both after the vaccine
This guy (Montagnier) says the virus WAS partially man made specifically to make the vaccine.
Fauci sent at least $3.7m to the lab AFTER a moratorium was put out on funding
Judicial Watch issued a FOIA for all correspondence this year between WHO and fauci (and was granted an expedition of the documents).
To: 2CAVTrooper
You talking about the paper from the Israeli micro biologist? I have no clue if he is Israeli or not. His name is Yuri Deigin. The paper is not yet peer-reviewed merely for lack of time. Is that who you are thinking of?
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posted on
05/05/2020 3:05:32 PM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
To: SeekAndFind
Some claim the virus occurred naturally but was brought into the Wuhan lab for study, from where it escaped, a theory Fauci dismissed as a circular argument. That means it was in the wild to begin with. Thats why I dont get what theyre talking about [and] why I dont spend a lot of time going in on this circular argument, he said.Fauci gives us double talk instead of answering the question if the virus spread from an infected person at the lab.
Fauci is a con man who funds and covers for a dirty Chinese communist virology lab.
To: romanesq
Allowing Fauci into the tent and continuing to give him a platform is what now makes removing him problematic for Trump.
Fauci is already countering the Intel assessment of the origin of the virus. Herr Doktor is right where he wants to be.
He is inside the wire now.
To: FreedomForce
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posted on
05/05/2020 3:20:27 PM PDT
by
dennisw
To: Starboard
How can Fauci counter intel with none?
No one is fooled.
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posted on
05/05/2020 3:21:33 PM PDT
by
romanesq
(Flubro, from the people who brought you the stupidity of grifters & the letter Q)
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