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Current World Health Organization guidance: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19."
1 posted on 05/17/2020 7:37:32 AM PDT by redfog
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“Our team” and the WHO are both on the wrong side of the issue—gambling there will be not be a second wave.

We will find out—soon enough—no point in arguing about it.


2 posted on 05/17/2020 7:40:00 AM PDT by cgbg (New poll: post elderly voters like Biden's experience as Wilson's VP fighting the Spanish Flu.)
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I only wear a mask on Halloween. If a business requires one I will shop elsewhere.


3 posted on 05/17/2020 7:40:14 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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Slave wear ... the sign of submission


4 posted on 05/17/2020 7:40:58 AM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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Now, unless you’re wearing a mask, you’ll not be allowed to avail yourself of your newly granted freedoms from the political lockdowns.


6 posted on 05/17/2020 7:43:18 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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A simple question to mask wearers. Our bodies are designed to inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide. Doesn’t wearing a mask inhibit the inhalation of oxygen?


7 posted on 05/17/2020 7:44:01 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Wearing some contaminated mask is not healthy and it protects no one.


8 posted on 05/17/2020 7:46:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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I think the “key” for seniors anyway, is to basically maintain social distancing. The mask is a SIGNAL that reminds folks to maintain that distance. Whether the mask itself does any good depends on the website you read and the politics of the writer. (what a shame). But as a “signal” to remember the 6-foot rule, it works fine.


10 posted on 05/17/2020 7:47:39 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Congress is not made up of leaders however they are representatives of their voters.)
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Current World Health Organization guidance: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19."

That's the WHO which is joined at the hip with China? We withdrew from the organization but suddenly we're listening to them now?

11 posted on 05/17/2020 7:47:50 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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I’ve been working as usual since Plandemic. My work demands we wear them. Some customer locations do as well. It is what it is. Once the “heat” isn’t around, or leaves for the day, off they come. I never cover my nose and have yet to have something said. They just want to see it on your face.

Personally I think it’s a useless gesture.


12 posted on 05/17/2020 7:48:52 AM PDT by avenir
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Government bureaucrats first told us, inconsistently, that 1) masks were useless, and 2) we should save them for medical personnel.

Like the anti-death-penalty proponents who say that life imprisonment is harsher than execution and thus more condign, but in the same breath suggest that the death penalty might be reserved for the most debased forms of murder.

15 posted on 05/17/2020 7:51:02 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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Once again, the people writing the article are missing the point:

No procedure mask or bandana is going to prevent any virus from passing through.

But, masks prevent the aerosol from your mouth from leaving and entering over my masked fast. You would literally have to get within inches of my face and sneeze at me to pass a virus if we are both masked.

Second, the mask prevents you from touching your nose and mouth. Since MOST arrogant non-maskers are not performing near enough hand washings, their gross germ infected fingers are on everything they touch. When you pick up an organge after some nasty guy just felt them all up...you are picking up whatever nastiness they have. And one of the first things you are going to do is touch your face. It is natural and difficult to resist.

Wearing a mask makes you aware of it. It prevents you from getting their nastiness into your system.

THOSE are the reasons they want you to wear a mask. I am still surprised that the masses (especially the otherwise smart people on FR) don’t get it.

The OTHER thing we don’t hear enough about is washing your hands. The amount of fecal matter on the average cell phone is astounding. You can that from putting the phone down on the counter and flushing an open toilet.

Finally, I laugh out loud when I read FR people writing about how low the cases are in Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Korea. And yet, in order to replicate those results you would have to have a compliant, diligent, and hygienic population.

Based on the hysterical resistance to masks that I read about every day, I have come to the conclusion that we have none of those things in your communities.

Men write about wearing masks as if it is an attack on your masculinity. It is hilarious.

Of course, 99% of the Freepers bitching will put on a mask when then go to the store because they need to buy groceries. So, I guess its all a moot point.

Wear a mask, or not. I sincerely don’t care. But these are the reasons why you should—they work. Not in the way this article tries to explain, but in a more practical sense: People are stupid and nasty.


16 posted on 05/17/2020 7:51:19 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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“If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.” Very true statement

If you are unhealthy receiving cancer treatment you should wear a mask when in public. I saw this before COVID-19 and will see it after COVID-19.

Unfortunately I fear the people in this category will experience some negativity because of articles like this. They do not wear mask in submission to authority but to protect their own heath from the flu, Cold, Covid-19 and etc.

On occasion you will see those people out buying groceries and other needs and people will pass judgement because of those articles. Don’t believe me hang out in a cancer center treatment parking lot.


18 posted on 05/17/2020 7:51:41 AM PDT by DEPcom
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If you’re a pig and don’t care who you might infect in a pre-symptomatic contagious stage then don’t wear a mask. Me, I’m wearing an n95 because I was smart enough to go out and buy them in January and laughed when they tried to tell me they don’t work but I should donate them.


23 posted on 05/17/2020 7:55:17 AM PDT by IBIAFR
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I haven’t been wearing a mask and won’t unless I actually have reason to know I’m sick.


25 posted on 05/17/2020 7:57:15 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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If you’re in a place vital to survivial - food stores, water treatment facilities, nuclear plants etc - AND the emplooyees can’t leave you should wear a mask.

Same if you’re in a facility where people vulnerable to the virus - hospitals, nursing homes etc can’t leave - then wear a mask.

If you’re in a place where the owner request masks to enter - wear a mask or go to a different store...

It’s the usual ‘being decent’ rules.

Common sense.


27 posted on 05/17/2020 7:59:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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The same WHO that has been so effective during this entire crisis.


35 posted on 05/17/2020 8:07:37 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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I don’t mask I just grab a Wet One when I go into stores.


36 posted on 05/17/2020 8:08:16 AM PDT by UB355 (Slow Traffic keep right)
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Wrap a sheet in front of your car’s grill. If you’re handy, add a sign saying QUESTION AUTHORITY.


38 posted on 05/17/2020 8:08:24 AM PDT by Buttons12
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It’s largely a political action, but more than that it’s a marker. Seems like it adds to more than 100%.


44 posted on 05/17/2020 8:11:32 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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I do indoor air quality consulting so I get to read and study some not so interesting stuff. Please see below and understand this was a OSHA document from 2009

Very small excerpt from a document (50 pages +) titled:

PANDEMIC INFLUENZA PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE GUIDANCE FOR HEALTHCARE WORKERS AND HEALTHCARE EMPLOYERS

Occupational Safety and Health Administration 2009. PART 1

“When personal protective equipment is necessary to protect against droplet transmission of infectious agents, employees must place a barrier between the source of the droplet (e.g., a sneeze) and their mucosal surfaces. Such protection could include a surgical mask to cover the mouth and nose and safety glasses to cover the eyes. Recent studies show that aerosol penetration through a surgical mask is highly dependent on particle size, mask construction, and breathing flow rate.

One study showed that penetration rates for submicron particles could be as high as 80 percent for surgical masks.36

Even relatively unconventional uses (e.g., the wearing of multiple surgical masks) have been shown to be less protective than NIOSH-certified respirators. For example, research has shown that the use of up to five surgical masks worn by volun teers results in particle reduction of only 63 percent for one mask, 74 percent for two masks, 78 percent for three masks, and 82 percent for five masks, compared with a recommended reduction of at least 95 percent for properly fitted N95 respirators.37”

36 Chen CC, Willeke K. Aerosol penetration through surgical masks. Am J Infect Control 1992; 20(4):177- 184.

37 Derrick JL, Gomersall CD. Protecting healthcare staff from severe acute respiratory syndrome: filtra- tion capacity of multiple surgical masks. J Hosp Infect 2005; 59(4):365-368.

I understand Corona and Influenza differences of opinion think this data provides some guidance.


48 posted on 05/17/2020 8:12:03 AM PDT by deepestsouth1
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