Posted on 05/23/2020 8:00:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
The alchemists and astrologists who were the distant ancestors of modern science believed in a world of absolute truths. Uncovering the right formula, searching the sweep of sky, offered total control over the otherwise mysterious forces of the universe. Our current knowledge of the way that things are tells us that while the universe may have absolute realities, our understanding of them will never be so.
Quantum indeterminacy has left us with a universe in which the drive to know is constrained by our search for knowledge. Existence seems to be built to challenge our hubris, forcing us to think about our flaws, limiting us to dimensions and points in time, and asking us to accept what we cannot know.
The universe is not a machine that we can take apart and rebuild. It is built to be partly unknowable.
And the more we study the universe, the more we understand the importance of the observer. Science is not the genius jumping out of his bath, shouting, “Eureka”, and running through the streets, without the benefit of his cloak, to jot down the formula: it’s the ability to defy the variability of the universe by achieving the intended results, and replicating them over and over again by different observers.
Science has been made into a cheap whore.
I disagree with the “certainty” part.
The point of science was to discern the temporal universe. That’s a term you don’t hear anymore because it referred to the universe as God created it. Using science we could be certain about things in the physical world - that maggots don’t spontaneously generate on rotted meat, that it’s possible for man to fly, that we can split the atom and use that for clean and efficient power as well as bombs - which is where we point out what science is NOT.
Science is not philosophy nor is it something you can base your life on.
leftists will throw out terms like “we have the science to show that guns are bad” or “Science shows us there are 37 genders” when neither of these stand up to scrutiny or reproducible results - the very foundation for real science.
You can use math to “prove” that Universal Basic Income works - the problem is the basics of that proof are based on faulty assumptions (but don’t argue that!)
Science, at its best, is pure rationale and reason and the study of the OBJECTIVE world. The problem isn’t science itself - the problem is the leftists who have abandoned logic and reason for pure ideology (along with their “science”). You only need to look at what our “top men” said about Biden making a racist comment about “You aint black”. Did they agree it was racist? No. In fact they defended the statement as TRUE.
THAT basic fallacy of lies and misrepresentation permeates everything today. How can you even have science when white is black and black is white and leftists get run over at the next zebra crossing.
>> The author obviously doesn’t know what science is. Never did the idiot state it.
Greenfield is a solid contributor, and he’s right about the manipulative nature of “science”.
Most of the advancements of the last 500 years are due to science and capitalism, inventions, exploration, expanding human knowledge, etc.
Just as religion has been used by evil people, including today (jihadism) science has also been used by evil people.
I have learned through this BS debacle that I hate science as much as I hate government and a good portion of society. At one time,all were honorable in America with very few exceptions and if a segment of society strayed,it would be corrected. America right now is a run away train.
And Christianity.
Yes, I’m serious.
The much-maligned Christian outlook opened up freedom and even science itself. Only to be stabbed in the back.
There is science and then there is “science.”
I believe it is “science” that you hate.
“Science is too often centered around politics.”
Not real science.
I think you are missing my point. Science is not just something, sometimes misused. It is THE common central claim of the most anti-human movements of the modern era.
There is nothing wrong with actual science, but when a government starts claiming innocence because they are “only following science”, you can be certain you are dealing with a totalitarian.
“Makes the right sound like a bunch of morons.”
How so?
Saying I believe in science is ludicrous.
Science doesn’t believe in science. There’s no issue of belief or non-belief.
Science has nothing to do with believing in something or not believing in something.
Leftist “Religion” of Science - bump for later...….
“Our current knowledge of the way that things are tells us that while the universe may have absolute realities, our understanding of them will never be so.”
Yet you claim absolute understanding of the truth of your statement.
“Most of the advancements of the last 500 years are due to science and capitalism, inventions, exploration, expanding human knowledge, etc.”
Absolutely and we don’t have to believe in it for it to be true.
It’s true no matter what we believe in.
Author: “quantum”
Me: “You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
Trust science, not scientists.
Yet, in the last 500 years, there has never been a time that you could have government by science. In the 1840s, the idea of sanitation was put forth and the doctor was driven from the profession.
Science, even at it’s very best, is an exceedingly poor choice as a form of government.
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Amen
Science is never centered around politics. Science is a process of trying to understand the world by explaining observed phenomenon, the more general the explanation consistent with a broad range of observation, the more important the finding.
What fallible humans do invoking science is a different matter.
Thanks for that outline of my next screenplay.
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