Posted on 05/28/2020 7:16:46 AM PDT by zeestephen
It’s a jerky thing to do if you don’t know all the tenants, he says he’s a frequent user, and he has made, I’m sure because he can’t, no claim that he has made such queries otherwise. In fact, he presents the other hypothetical in which he says he’d make the query: if he came across women using it.
Granted, he is likely used to seeing white men use the gym, but that doesn’t mean it is okay to ask any women or minorities he encounters to prove they belong there.
Oh, and the guys also told him they belonged. He then doubled down on his jerkiness by trying to quiz them on where in the building they work. That is of course before he tripled down on his jerkiness to make the call.
Was that a rhetorical statement? If not, I have an answer. It's where your cursor is. Keep an eye on your cursor, and you'll have no problem. I know, cuz I do that all the time, not watch where my cursor is when I'm pasting something - think I'd learn. :-)
All he had to do was to go to the front desk staff and ask if the gym facilities were supposed to be open - “Because isn’t there an government order that’s supposed to keep them closed?” - and if not, there’s a bunch of people in there. No mention of ethnicity, no handle to get him on.
Because it’s an electronic-controlled-access gym room in the middle of a controlled access facility. You can’t even get to the room if you are not authorized to be in there.
It’s like assuming a bunch of people in a gym on a secured military base are somehow not authorized to be there. This isn’t like a random gym in an apartment complex.
If he questioned the hypothetical white guys like he did on this video, no, he would have been kicked out too.
( i understood the point of the feminists).
She seems young to have a job that paid so well.
I still imagine she might get a settlement in a lawsuit, given that she was not the one who posted the video and can claim it was filmed without her permission since she is heard asking him to stop. (Don’t think there is a law against filming, so that’s not particularly a defense).
I feel like the company has to worry about a sympathetic ear hearing the sad tale of a woman who was scared about her dog being poisoned, and then was filmed against her will doing nothing more than trying to get the police to come help her because she was alone in a secluded place with a person she thought wanted to poison her dog.
New York has no law barring someone filming another adult’s activities Or conduct in a public space. Most states don’t have one either. There are too many idiots that think there are and very few states that do.
It would be interesting to see what happens if the guy fought the lease termination in court.
I didn’t mean to imply I judge him harshly. Other than his sister(?) posting the video, which got her in serious trouble, I would laugh about this story. If there was no video, and the story was just about this woman who called the cops and ended up getting cited for her dog, I would think it poetic justice.
I am simply saying that it was not unreasonable for her to feel threatened. Would it change things for example if we found out she had been attacked on a trail before in her life (it is amazing how many women have a story of a guy physically assaulting them, stories that don’t become rape cases, but show that there are some men out there sitting in parks waiting for a woman to be alone, with her dog on a leash, because that is easy to control).
It bothers me that her company accused her of racism. IF they simply had said “her unhinged nature”, it would be different, although again if she had ever been assaulted, a white boss firing a woman for becoming “unhinged” would probably not fare well in this day and age.
If the guy was white, and she had said “a caucasian male”, I doubt she gets fired, I doubt we know about it unless we are doing klickbait on facebook as a humorous story.
In fact, there was just a story about a court finding that a man had the right to film clearly “sexual” close-ups of a woman, so long as they were in public.
I attend conferences where they explicitly post signs about not allowing filming, since otherwise it is fair game.
It isn’t actually a lease, it’s a co-working agreement. I posted the agreement up thread. Intentional disruption of other members’ activities in any way is grounds for instant termination.
It wouldn’t matter how he phrased it. If it got out, he’s white and they are black and now he’s guilty. Do you remember when George Zimmerman called the non-emergency number to report Trayvon Martin prowling around the subdivision? He didn’t say the kid was black until the dispatcher asked him for a description. Did it matter? Nope.
I think if you are going to feel afraid if a man talks to you in the park maybe you should walk with a pal or stay outside isolated areas.
She really didn’t act scared at all. She was the aggressor until she turned on the waterworks for the police when they weren’t taking her seriously.
To be coarse she turned the interaction into a p***ing match then was out maneuvered by a guy who didn’t want any aggro, just wanted her to put the dog on a lead. I put it down to people having treated her with velvet gloves. She didn’t know how to interact as an equal.
I see no indication that the sister was in trouble for posting the video. Do you have some other information.
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