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To: bort

I think compressing a man’s neck for two and a half minutes after he becomes unresponsive is by definition excessive force and depraved indifference to life.

Derek Chauvin was a police officer for nearly 20 years. He has had first responder training. He has seen people lose consciousness and die before.

I do not think he intended to kill Floyd. But it seems impossible that he did not realize that Floyd had become unconscious and that he had the duty to render assistance.


30 posted on 05/28/2020 5:10:35 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: heartwood

I think compressing a man’s neck for two and a half minutes after he becomes unresponsive is by definition excessive force and depraved indifference to life.

Derek Chauvin was a police officer for nearly 20 years. He has had first responder training. He has seen people lose consciousness and die before.

I do not think he intended to kill Floyd. But it seems impossible that he did not realize that Floyd had become unconscious and that he had the duty to render assistance
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But what if his death was caused by something other than the police officers’ using the force they did? Nobody knows all the facts. My gut is that the victim was on drugs or had swallowed drugs. As bizarre as it may sound, when I watched the video I did not get the sense that Mr. Floyd could not breathe. He was engaged in a conversation with his friend on the sidewalk. My antennas really went up when I saw that the autopsy was inconclusive and the medical examiner ordered more Tests. Stay tuned. I am open minded.


40 posted on 05/28/2020 5:17:46 PM PDT by bort
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To: heartwood

In one of the videos, he can be seen looking down at Floyd, who is obviously unconscious, and STILL keeps his knee down on his neck.

I don’t understand the knee on the neck. Is that a normal police move? I could maybe see it if the perp is just OUTTA CONTROL, jacked up on drugs, but in the videos we’ve seen, this does not appear to be the case.


224 posted on 05/29/2020 4:41:19 AM PDT by a real Sheila (Love my golden retrievers!)
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