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To: DEPcom

Knee in shoulder blade with cuffed suspect. 4 cops, one on each leg. One ready to tase. Of the 26 departments with which i was familiar, none allowed extended carotid just for control for 3-4 seconds to take down., None allowed neck pressure. For those who say it’s ok, you saw the results on neck pressure.

4 cops on a cuffed guy should be able to control non-lethally. interested in knowing what happened between cuffing and how they got into that position.


3 posted on 05/28/2020 6:41:45 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: stuckincali

“Masson said MPD also does not typically teach the “knee on neck” technique and instead teaches “knee into shoulder blades” as a restraint tactic.”


4 posted on 05/28/2020 6:42:21 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: stuckincali

Thanks for explaining.

“The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances:”

Do you know what do they mean by Unconscious Neck... in that line?


5 posted on 05/28/2020 6:44:43 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: stuckincali

“interested in knowing what happened between cuffing and how they got into that position.“

The man was cuffed when they pulled him from his car on first contact. Remained cuffed the entire time. Below is the link to first contact video and cuffing. There is a street cam video where the deceased is sitting on the sidewalk, cuffed, and is then led by an officer to the location of the viral video. No true resisting can be seen in any of the videos.

https://mobile.twitter.com/hannahfloodfox9/status/1265433776248819712


17 posted on 05/28/2020 7:07:13 PM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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To: stuckincali

“Of the 26 departments with which i was familiar, none allowed extended carotid just for control for 3-4 seconds to take down., None allowed neck pressure.”

Agree. AFAIK, choke holds of any kind were disallowed decades ago, yet I heard about rogue cops continuing to use them long after, including the dreaded billy-choke. A billyclub is pulled against the esophagus from behind until the esophagus closes completely. The suspect not only cannot breathe & passes out, but the eyeballs & tongue can explode of pressure isnt released in time. This can also cause brain bleed.


22 posted on 05/28/2020 7:09:52 PM PDT by mumblypeg
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To: stuckincali

Yep - they had him under control and the cop(s) had been turned in for a number of other excessive force complaints


52 posted on 05/29/2020 3:46:28 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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