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Coronavirus is weakening, could disappear on its own: Italian doctor
NY Post ^ | June 21, 2020 | 1:54pm | Updated | By Jackie Salo

Posted on 06/22/2020 7:21:04 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: RayChuang88

“The common cold is notorious for killing older people.”

I was thinking I read that somewhere that was it. I expect the new coronavirus to do the same thing. The vitamin treatment is the best prevention to avoid it too.

I take C with zinc daily and try to eat foods with natural vitamins. I am rarely sick. I think I am doing better since the restaurants close down or at least I feel better from the home diet.


21 posted on 06/22/2020 8:22:28 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: bgill

But will you die from it? Some say its weakens and has far less efficacy, so sure there are spikes positive tests (they are testing anyone and everyone now) but no real spike in deaths. They continue to fall.


22 posted on 06/22/2020 8:26:05 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: Red Badger
Bassetti said. “Even elderly patients, aged 80 or 90, are now sitting up in bed and they are breathing without help. The same patients would have died in two or three days before.”

That's what I noticed from recent hospital photos, most people are up in bed.

23 posted on 06/22/2020 8:27:47 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: Sequoyah101

Since covid was an engineered bio weapon unleashed on the world (with us as the primary target), don’t be surprised if China releases more bugs. They aren’t intended to be all that lethal, just disruptive.


24 posted on 06/22/2020 8:33:39 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: DEPcom

I suspect the same.

males that have ACE2 receptors that aren’t bound as effectively by the virus spike protein will live to become ancestors.

Other males...not so much.


25 posted on 06/22/2020 8:37:04 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: bgill
Utter horse hockey. He’s welcome to come to TX and see the major spikes.

Big Media bullcrap.

A spike in cases doesn't mean that you have a spike in infections. They're testing more asymptomatics in TX and FL now. That's why you have a spike in cases in those states.

The uber liberal mayor of Austin said you’re 3X more likely to catch CV today than you were 2 weeks ago.

Based on absolutely no science.

26 posted on 06/22/2020 8:42:48 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tatown

I think most of the nervous-nellies are city-slickers living in a concrete jungle where there is seldom sunshine and fresh air.


27 posted on 06/22/2020 9:26:19 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: Sequoyah101

I had a similar experience about a month ago, though not quite. I had promised my kids that I would periodically take my temperature during this CoVid stuff. Even though I felt fine, I took my temperature one afternoon, like I had done every week or so since this all started. For the first time, I registered a low grade fever. 99.7. I thought it was a fluke so took it a couple of hours later. It was 101.7. I was stunned; I felt perfectly fine! I did have a very minor cough, but I have seasonal allergies, and it felt the same to me. My husband says he could hear that it was different. Anyway, I had no other symptoms, just this fever, but I didn’t even FEEL sick.

If I hadn’t taken my temperature that day, I would never have known I had a fever. So I didn’t go out into the world, but I worked in my yard everyday like I normally do. Food always tasted good (still does!) but that fever lasted for 6 days. On day 3, I went for a CoVid test since I figured if it was that, it would be good to know for sure. Well, that darn test came back negative. I figure it wasn’t a huge viral load, but still quarantined for the 10 days the doctor said to, in case of a false negative. No idea what it was, but aren’t you supposed to feel sick even a little with a fever?


28 posted on 06/22/2020 9:36:22 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: FreeReign

Thank you so very much for setting me straight on what’s going on in my state while you’re thousand of miles away in NY. Yeah, I’ll listen to you. Uh huh. Right on because you’re Mr. Know it All. Yeah, right. Sure thing, bozo. Please, point out the test tents here. Go ahead, I’m waiting.

Fact, the tests are only available in the cities. Anyone outside the cities has to already sick enough to get a test sent to the doctor and wait 7-10 days (yes, that’s the current turn around still) for results.

Shut up on what you don’t know.


29 posted on 06/22/2020 9:47:30 AM PDT by bgill
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Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe I’ll just have my lungs and kidneys be eaten up and in six months my death certificate will read lung failure.

We had zero deaths before opening up. Now, that story has changed. Thankfully, as we know more about it and we won’t have as many deaths but there are and will be deaths.

Bull, they are not testing everyone.


30 posted on 06/22/2020 9:52:27 AM PDT by bgill
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To: EagleUSA

‘Oh, don’t tell Fauci, et al...’

on’t tell a sizable contingent on this forum...


31 posted on 06/22/2020 10:13:29 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Red Badger

Anyone except our decrepit media knows this. Cases are going up in the US but hardly anyone is dying right now. It’s run it’s course and is on the downswing.


32 posted on 06/22/2020 10:15:53 AM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America!)
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To: bgill

‘We had zero deaths before opening up. Now, that story has changed.’

well, you’re perfectly welcome to stay in your basement and eat canned peas for the foreseeable future...have fun getting them around your facemask...


33 posted on 06/22/2020 10:24:01 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: bgill

Utter Horse Hockey? It appears to confirm what the Italian physician has said — namely there are spikes yet no hospitalization increases. The virus may well be dying out and attenuating. Which would be exactly what we would expect.


34 posted on 06/22/2020 10:44:12 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

In Central TX, new CV cases were a pretty consistent 70-ish a day until June 8 when it began the spike. Yesterday, 714 new cases.

Hospitalizations and ICU ticking up but on ventilators is fairly steady the past two months.

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/what-we-know-about-the-32-coronavirus-cases-in-central-texas/


35 posted on 06/22/2020 10:49:20 AM PDT by bgill
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To: gas_dr

Thankfully, we know more now how to treat it but that’s not to disregard those who are deemed cured but have life long disabilities and destroyed organs. Yeah, better to die in a couple years from kidney failure than to admit it was caused by the virus.


36 posted on 06/22/2020 10:54:29 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

I have reviewed all the surge states. Here is what we do know:

1. Hospitalizations are not increasing in a statistically significant way. In my surge state we had a briefing today that we remain well under the bed utilization in hospitals and ICU’s that were being utilized at the beginning of the lockdown. In other words, we have more ICU and hospital beds available then when this whole fiasco started.

2. Hospital admissions is a more firm number than (+) cases, however, admissions to floor can be based on many things, right down to a gut reaction of the doctor in the ER evaluating the patient. The fact that vents are steady (I believe your data) despite increasing cases means by definition that the virus is less — well — virile. This fits the Italian data.

3. Our local and state government pointed out that not all tests gathered on the same day are posted on the same day. Therefore daily positives and percent positives are less reliable data, and more sensitive to noise and data dumps. we see this on worldometer. That is why I dont use that site as definitive source. What we can do, however, is spot trends. Worldometer now has critical cases world wide at 1%, it started at 4%, that means more cases, less critical — either attenuation, or we are starting to uncover how spread this disease is. In either event it definitively points toward the current CoVID or overall CoVID issues to be far less serious than originally thought. Here in my city of well over 1.4M people, we have a total of 14 CoVID patients in ICU across the city. That is pretty impressive given where we were a month ago.

Synthesizing all the data, it does appear that the virus is attenuating and less dangerous than originally. OR testing is catching up and we are painting the picture that it never was that dangerous. At this point of time it is a distinction without difference as we can say that it appears that the disease manifest at this time is no where near as critical as one month ago. Couple that with the fatigue factor, and I think we are closer to going back to normal today than we were a couple weeks ago.


37 posted on 06/22/2020 10:56:54 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: bgill

I understand your statement, however, I think it important to note that lots of people with ARDS from lots of reasons suffer organ damage that is permanent (Renal failure, ie). Thus, it is not CoVID uniquely doing this — it is easy to fall into the CoVID is the root of all problems, but honestly any ARDS patient is at high risk for multiorgan system failure (MOSF) with long term sequelae. It is the nature of the inflammatory response seen with virtually any virus or infections (SIRS response) in a vulnerable person.


38 posted on 06/22/2020 11:01:24 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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Thank you so very much for setting me straight on what’s going on in my state while you’re thousand of miles away in NY.

My kid sitting next to me was in Austin up until a week ago.

We had zero deaths before opening up.

That's just false.

39 posted on 06/22/2020 11:19:43 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: bgill

Here in Mass, a former “hotspot”, we have free testing everywhere for anyone now. Amazingly ...this testing capacity surged apparently overnight.Here in Mass the average age of a covid death is 81. Lets focus our attention on those folks. Most “younger” people who will test positive will be mildly symptomatic and many who get it will never even know they had it. I mean have you looked at Texas’ fatalities? You have had deaths in Texas and the chart doesnt exactly represent a pronounded spike in deaths.


40 posted on 06/22/2020 11:51:05 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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