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Hagia Sophia: Pope "Pained" as Instanbul Museum Reverts to Mosque
BBC New ^ | 7/12/2020 | BBC

Posted on 07/12/2020 8:45:32 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck

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To: Dana1960

The problem is Farnkie has filled the Vatican with fellow travelers so l have little confidence his successor will be any better.


21 posted on 07/12/2020 10:10:06 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: ek_hornbeck

Christian Crusades Matter.


22 posted on 07/12/2020 10:12:31 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It’s Erdogan. A classic dictator who is Islamic to the core. Kiss Turkey goodbye, it’s well on its way to Islamic tyranny.


23 posted on 07/12/2020 10:43:59 AM PDT by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong!)
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To: ek_hornbeck

“Pope Francis has said he’s “pained” by Turkey’s decision to convert Istanbul’s Hagia Sophia back into a mosque.”

Why would this bother the first Chrislamic Pope?


24 posted on 07/12/2020 10:47:03 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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To: ek_hornbeck
Muslim minorities in Europe seem to have a way of causing social and political problems vastly out of proportion to their numbers.

Yep. And any attempt at pushing back is vilified and even criminalized. Almost as if there was a plan in motion...

25 posted on 07/12/2020 11:54:54 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Oh, yeah, I’m sure he was.


26 posted on 07/12/2020 12:08:13 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: ek_hornbeck

Well then you shouldn’t have kissed the imam on the lips. Did you expect muzzies to respect you for debasing yourself like that?
Go wash some feet.


27 posted on 07/12/2020 12:30:29 PM PDT by I want the USA back (BLM is a violent marxist movement designed to overthrow the US constitutional form of government.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Ataturk worked aggressively to remove Islamism from the public square.

But Erdogan is a wannabe caliph.


28 posted on 07/12/2020 12:30:45 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Bishop_Malachi; ek_hornbeck

Agreed. They conquered the city and slaughtered or sold into slavery the civilians sheltering in Haifa Sophia, fair and square. With the prior tenants, shall we say... evicted, it’s now part of their cultural heritage.


29 posted on 07/12/2020 12:34:26 PM PDT by j.havenfarm ( Beginning my 20th year on FR! 2,500+ replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Still less than 9% in France. Less still in the other countries you mention.

For now.


30 posted on 07/12/2020 11:25:39 PM PDT by Impy (Thug Lives Splatter)
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To: campaignPete R-CT; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA

Crusade time?


31 posted on 07/12/2020 11:28:26 PM PDT by Impy (Thug Lives Splatter)
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To: antidemoncrat

The catholic catechism teaches muslims worship the same God catholics do. There are pictures of JPII kissing a koran. He’s not the first chrislamic pope, he’s following tradition


32 posted on 07/12/2020 11:44:22 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

Really?

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/do-muslims-worship-the-same-god-catholics-do

“There are many things taught in Islam that are so radically opposed to what we believe as Catholic Christians, that some will say, “Well, perhaps they believe in one God, but the ‘one God’ they believe in is not the same God we believe in because, for example, the Koran teaches:

Women are inferior to men (Sura 4:34)
Men can, and even should, ‘beat’ their wives in some circumstances (Sura 4:34).
Belief in the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ is false (Sura 4:157-159).
Belief in the divinity of Christ is blasphemy (Sura 5:72).
Belief in Jesus Christ as ‘the Son of God’ is grave error (Sura 19:35; 10:68).
Muslims are commanded to ‘fight against’ Christians and all who disagree with them. Sura 9:29 says:

Fight those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, nor follow the Religion of Truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgement of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.


33 posted on 07/13/2020 5:56:41 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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To: antidemoncrat

yes. really.

CCC 841, quoting the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, Lumen Gentium 16, from Vatican II, declared:

The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.


34 posted on 07/13/2020 6:02:25 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ek_hornbeck

Constantinople was conquered largely because the Roman Catholic Pope refused to rally a defense to save the city.

Constantinople was lost because the Roman church wanted the eastern church to be destroyed once and for all.


35 posted on 07/13/2020 6:06:24 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Mom MD

Any religion that denies that Jesus Christ is the living Son of God who was crucified and then rose from the dead is a false religion. The Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified but taken back to Heaven and a substitute was crucified in his place. He will then return to Earth, subservient to the Madhi and demand Christians convert to Islam or die.

Am I wrong?


36 posted on 07/13/2020 6:46:59 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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To: antidemoncrat

take is up with your Roman church. I’m not the one that believes Christians and muslims worship the same god and you will not find pictures of the head of my denomination kissing the koran - or it would no longer be my church


37 posted on 07/13/2020 6:49:59 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

“my denomination”

And which denomination is that?


38 posted on 07/13/2020 9:10:14 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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To: antidemoncrat

one that knows that muslims and Christians do not worship the same god


39 posted on 07/13/2020 9:39:35 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

You don’t sound too proud of it. Just get on FR and pontificate about religious teaching of others but won’t divulge what your beliefs are base on.


40 posted on 07/13/2020 11:08:04 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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