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Did Biden Twice Vote To Tax Social Security While in the Senate? ("Mostly true")
Snopes ^ | Sep 14 2020 | BETHANIA PALMA

Posted on 09/18/2020 12:35:19 PM PDT by rintintin

Claim During his time in the U.S. Senate, Joe Biden cast two votes 10 years apart — one of them the deciding vote — in favor of legislation that taxed Social Security income.

Rating Mostly True

What's True While serving as a U.S. senator representing Delaware, Joe Biden voted for two pieces of legislation — once in 1983 and once in 1993 — that resulted in taxing some Social Security income of some recipients. ...

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1 posted on 09/18/2020 12:35:19 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: rintintin

A tax on a tax..... One of the hidden secrets of the ruling class..


2 posted on 09/18/2020 12:36:10 PM PDT by patriotspride
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SNOPES will either bury this or will change it from mostly-true to murky or some other grey classification. Even mostly-true is very bad for the DIMs.


3 posted on 09/18/2020 12:44:27 PM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: rintintin

As far as taxing Social Security only for “higher income” people the law said you would be taxed if you made more than $25,000 individually or $32,000 as a couple. That includes almost everyone who was actually working or had any income beyond Social Security.


4 posted on 09/18/2020 12:45:30 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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Isn’t social security taxable for seniors now?


5 posted on 09/18/2020 12:48:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Freee-dame

Pathetic. You pay into this thing your whole working life and the “benefits” get taxed if you dare apply yourself further and earn an income? Why should it matter to the Social Security Trust if the worker wants to work more? If anything it’ll continue to fund the soon-to-be-bankrupt trust.


6 posted on 09/18/2020 12:48:37 PM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: rintintin

The 1983 law passed with 47 Republican votes and was signed by Ronald Reagan.


7 posted on 09/18/2020 12:48:56 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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How did the Democrats spin the passage of the law increasing Social Security taxation to blame it on Republicans? I read a 2018 Facebook post by a lefty that “explained” how it was the fault of Republicans. It looks like the Clinton era increase was completely done by Dems.

Scaring seniors that they will lose their Social Security if Republicans win is used by the Democrats every election.

8 posted on 09/18/2020 12:51:05 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: NohSpinZone

The amount that is taken out of your income for Medicare also increases dramatically as your income goes up.


9 posted on 09/18/2020 12:53:07 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: rintintin
It was rated as "mostly true" because the claim was that Biden make the tie-breaking vote, when he merely made the tie-making vote leaving it to VP Gore to make the tie-breaking vote.

I would have rated it as "just about entirely true except for one microscopic point"

10 posted on 09/18/2020 1:05:18 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I am afraid the gipper failed us on that along with the GOP


11 posted on 09/18/2020 1:06:56 PM PDT by wild74
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Isn’t social security taxable for seniors now?

Up to 85%....unless you didnt plan accordingly.

12 posted on 09/18/2020 1:09:26 PM PDT by 03A3 (If we can defund the police, we sure as hell can defund the FBI)
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To: frogjerk

The actual fact is that it is TRUE. Without Biden’s vote, there would not have been a tie which then is decided by the VP’s vote.

So Snopes has already moved a TRUE to a Mostly True in an attempt to cover Biden’s back side.


13 posted on 09/18/2020 1:28:49 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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To: frogjerk

The actual fact is that it is TRUE. Without Biden’s vote, there would not have been a tie which then is decided by the VP’s vote.

So Snopes has already moved a TRUE to a Mostly True in an attempt to cover Biden’s back side.


14 posted on 09/18/2020 1:29:59 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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If as you say,it’s already taxable, then why does Joe Biden have to vote to tax it, unless there was a time when social security was NOT taxable?


15 posted on 09/18/2020 1:30:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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HE DARN SURE DID!!!

HE WANTED TO TAX YOUR SOCSEC CHECK!@!


16 posted on 09/18/2020 1:42:46 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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I do recall one thing for sure and this is or was if social security was to be taxed or not, at the time pompous lard a$$ Al Gore who was vice president at the time acted as a tie breaker to pass the law that social security was to be taxed.


17 posted on 09/18/2020 1:46:26 PM PDT by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER)
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To: rintintin

Good fact for Trump to mention during the debates.


18 posted on 09/18/2020 2:02:35 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, but it is proportional.


19 posted on 09/18/2020 3:48:10 PM PDT by DownInFlames (Gals)
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In some cases. I’d have to dig out my booklet and look up specifics, but according to the IRS website, if your other income and HALF your social security add up to more than $25,000, filing single, then you may have to pay taxes.

Most people making social security only will probably not have to pay any taxes.

I’m thinking in my booklet it said something about $16,000 or $17,000, I’ll have to look it up. Mabe that’s the “half your SS” part, different way of figuring it. You can make up to $16,000 or $17,000 in addition to SS and still not have to pay taxes on it. I’d have to look it up.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/are-social-security-benefits-taxable


20 posted on 09/18/2020 4:08:55 PM PDT by Paleo Pete (I smile because you are family. I laugh because you can do nothing about it...)
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