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Swing State of Pennsylvania Has A Potential Problem With ‘Naked Ballots’ Which Won’t Be Counted
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| 09/22/2020
| John Sexton
Posted on 09/22/2020 9:07:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
This report from WTAE in Pittsburgh is getting some attention today. About 2 million Pennsylvanians have requested mail-in-ballots for the 2020 election but there are concerns that not everyone knows how they should be returned.
The ballots come with three parts: The ballot itself, a secrecy envelope which is just an envelope with the words Official Election Ballot printed on the front, and the outer envelope in which you mail everything back to the state. The problem is that some people havent been putting their ballots inside the secrecy envelope before mailing it back. In the primary election that wouldnt have mattered but because of a state supreme court decision issued last week, these so-called naked ballots will not be counted in the general election. And heres why that could be a very big deal:
Melanie Ostrander is the elections director for Washington County.
Washington County, like many others, counted these ballots for the June primary, but wont be allowed to in November.
We had a little over 22,000 ballots in the primary and approximately 1,000 were considered naked ballots,' Ostrander said.
That works out to nearly 5 percent of the ballots returned in the primary in that county. So what happens if a similar number of people make the same mistake statewide?
If 5% of the over 2 million Pennsylvanians and climbing voting by mail have ballots thrown out, that could lead to 100,000 ballots being tossed. Pennsylvania was decided by 44,000 votes in 2016.
In short, this could easily amount to enough ballots to decide who wins the election. Polling suggests that early mail-in voters are more likely to be Democrats while Republicans are more likely to vote on election day. So if there are errors with these ballots its more likely to hurt Biden than Trump.
But this issue is just one of many court battles across the country over voting. Some of the other battles in Pennsylvania have definitely gone in a way that will likely help Democrats.
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court granted a three-day extension for mail-in ballots in the November election allowing votes to count in the battleground state even if they arrive a little late.
The state traditionally required mail-in ballots to be due by the time polls close on Election Day.
Now ballots will be counted if theyre received by 5 p.m. on Nov. 6 as long as theyre postmarked by 8 p.m. on Election Day, according to the courts order.
No one knows what is going to be decisive in Pennsylvania but this issue is potentially a big one if voters dont get it right. Heres the WTAE report on naked ballots:
TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: ballot; fraud; mail; mailinballots; melanieostrander; nakedballots; pennsylvania; washingtoncounty
To: SeekAndFind
What an absolute cluster Fxxx the Democrats have created.
I swear they could break a stainless steel bowling ball.
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posted on
09/22/2020 9:11:41 PM PDT
by
American in Israel
(A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
To: SeekAndFind
Unless you go to the post office and request it, most mail doesn’t get a post mark anymore.
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posted on
09/22/2020 9:15:52 PM PDT
by
Beagle8U
("I nominate Rep. Matt Gaetz to be the next USSC justice.")
To: fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; PaulZe; brityank; Physicist; ...
Pennsylvania Ping!
Please ping me with articles of interest.
FReepmail me to be added to the list.
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posted on
09/22/2020 9:17:43 PM PDT
by
lightman
(I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
To: SeekAndFind
George Soros invested in secretary of states and district attorneys for a reason. All of this is deliberate. The democrats want as much confusion in this election as possible.
To: American in Israel
That was their plan all along.
They knew they didn't stand a chance in a fair election.
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posted on
09/22/2020 9:22:26 PM PDT
by
Eagles6
To: SeekAndFind
Sounds like the butterfly ballots of 2000. They’ll use any reason to get a judge to sign off on the cheat.
To: SeekAndFind
It appears that the voters stupidity will disenfranchise their vote.Oh well.
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posted on
09/22/2020 9:37:52 PM PDT
by
HANG THE EXPENSE
(Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
To: SeekAndFind
Some of the other battles in Pennsylvania have definitely gone in a way that will likely help Democrats.
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court granted a three-day extension for mail-in ballots in the November election allowing votes to count in the battleground state even if they arrive a little late.Why would counting late-arriving ballots logically help Dems - other than assuming fraud? Dems are said to be more likely to vote early. In fact this article says that.
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posted on
09/22/2020 9:41:07 PM PDT
by
lasereye
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
09/22/2020 9:41:26 PM PDT
by
Nachoman
(Following victory, its best to reload.)
To: SeekAndFind
idiots should not get votes counted.
this is why you show up on election day, people will help you get yoir vote counted
To: SeekAndFind
also, a county ekection person needs to be fired for admitting she engaged in election fraud.
a naked ballot can be read before being under control, and be lost or re-marked. thats why we cant count thrm.
To: Beagle8U
When you mail something it doesn’t get stamped by the Post Office?
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posted on
09/22/2020 9:51:14 PM PDT
by
tallyhoe
To: SeekAndFind
If people are too stupid to read the instructions printed all over the ballot, the secrecy sleeve, and the envelope, they’re too stupid to vote.
Bet these same geniuses manage to siphon through the Publisher’s Clearing House Rubik’s Cube, find all the stickers, and get those in the mail just fine.
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posted on
09/22/2020 9:59:21 PM PDT
by
bluejean
(Living one day at a time in the national psych ward.)
To: tallyhoe
“When you mail something it doesnt get stamped by the Post Office?”
Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t. Unless you go to the post office and request a post mark there is a good chance there will be none.
This election is going to be election 2000 part Dux,
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posted on
09/22/2020 10:22:55 PM PDT
by
Beagle8U
("I nominate Rep. Matt Gaetz to be the next USSC justice.")
To: All
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posted on
09/22/2020 10:33:51 PM PDT
by
musicman
(The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
To: SeekAndFind
Remember Iowa? Vote by app?
Early voting problems.
Vote by mail ballot problems.
No voter ID.
These are all things created by Democrats to undermine confidence in our elections.
They want Trump to win so they can protest, hate and destroy. This is the marxist revolution
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posted on
09/23/2020 3:20:57 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(The Democratic Party is communism)
To: SeekAndFind
That’s how absentee ballots have already worked in this state.
You’d know that if you had read the instructions.
I actually like the way in which this screens out illiterate voters.
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posted on
09/23/2020 6:56:24 AM PDT
by
Buckeye McFrog
(Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
To: Buckeye McFrog
Always not already. Damn autocorrect.
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posted on
09/23/2020 6:56:51 AM PDT
by
Buckeye McFrog
(Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
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posted on
09/23/2020 10:36:17 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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