[buwaya]

Poland and Hungary are in the same boat. All of Eastern Europe was very lightly hit during the first wave in March-May, but they are definitely catching up now.

[Zhang Fei]

[Poland and Hungary are in the same boat. All of Eastern Europe was very lightly hit during the first wave in March-May, but they are definitely catching up now.]

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There’s a (politically- and psychologically-understandable) urge to declare victory if you had a good first wave. The problem is there’s a lot we don’t know about this virus. It’s been decades since Ebola showed up, and we’ve only just had a drug approved for it. I expect experts will be discovering many more things about this new bug for years or decades to come. And all those gaps in knowledge are why getting a cure won’t necessarily be easy despite the massive amounts of money shoveled at it.

I understand why we want a vaccine yesterday, but the fact is this may be like childbirth - one woman can have a child in 9 months, but 9 women can’t have a child in 1 month. There may be things about this bug we don’t know, can’t resolve since we don’t know about them and therefore can’t apply to a working cure.

[Erik Latranyi]

This shows that the lockdowns and masks do not result in better outcomes.

All nations, regardless of how they handled the virus, have similar outcomes over the long term.

In the US, states that did not do strict lockdowns and mask mandates did not have worse outcomes than states with extremely strict lockdowns and strict mask mandates.

[angmo]

Merkel probably crop dusted them to make them pay for not taking in the muzzies.

[Cronos]

buwaya "Poland and Hungary are in the same boat"

That is true. I've heard directly from 3 friends who are in high positions in hospitals that

1. ICU beds have run out in most parts of Poland
2. the respirator levels are fine, but no beds
3. The ministry is building additional locations, but very slowly and late

Looks like Poland is being hit hard

I'm not looking forward to no schools again...