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Trump Is Doing Better In Michigan And Wisconsin Than Polls Suggest
The Federalist ^ | October 28, 2020 | Chris Bedford and John Daniel Davidson

Posted on 10/28/2020 8:58:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: NImerc

Voter suppression/psy ops.


41 posted on 10/28/2020 10:19:19 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: suasponte137

Welcome to the party I lurked from 2003 to 2016, when I retired from active duty.


42 posted on 10/28/2020 10:23:42 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: KC_Conspirator

I’ve long figured that DNC ad spending is a form of money laundering and a payoff scheme to the networks/broadcasters.

So, much of that money is earmarked as a return of capital to their supporters.

But yeah, I think now we know that Trump has a bigger lead than in 2016 based upon where Trump is spending his time. His path to victory is about MI/PA/WI... 3 traditionally blue states. Bush won without those states. They are frosting, not meat and potatoes. If Trump wins Florida and Ohio, notice nobody talking about Ohio... then the former three are padding.


43 posted on 10/28/2020 10:27:19 AM PDT by Professional
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

Thanks man..

You sound like a red leg....am I right?


44 posted on 10/28/2020 10:34:26 AM PDT by suasponte137
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To: suasponte137
You sound like a red leg....am I right?

Correct, I wonder what gave me away?

45 posted on 10/28/2020 10:41:49 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

Wild guess.


46 posted on 10/28/2020 10:42:57 AM PDT by suasponte137
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To: SunkenCiv

This is merely anecdotal, I know, but I am seeing far, far more Trump signs here in my Michigan town than 4 years ago. Not just small Trump signs, but billboard sized signs. I live in a neighborhood on a lake and people have Trump signs on their pontoons. My next door neighbors have a giant purple and white Trump banner laying flat on their roof. You can see it from across the lake. His support here is palpable. Remember, our governor is very unpopular and she stupidly picked a fight with Trump.


47 posted on 10/28/2020 10:59:42 AM PDT by CassieL (Mostly a lurker here since the Blue Dress)
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To: suasponte137

Welcome suaspontel37


48 posted on 10/28/2020 11:17:17 AM PDT by encm(ss) (Diesel Boats Forever!)
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To: Professional

>>In 1976 voters severely punished the GOP for Watergate

In 2020 voters will severely punish the DNC for it’s violent left wing tendencies and corruption<<

I think that’s a pretty good analysis, with one potential snag: In 1976 the mainstream media favored the same side they do today, the Democrats. And this year they’ve dialed their support all the way to the level of pure propagandizing.

But maybe we’re in the process of punishing them too, for their own corruption. Hopefully, that’s the case.


49 posted on 10/28/2020 11:22:39 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

The mainstream media back then was afforded credibility and there were hardly any options. Today with the internet, people have found their own sources of news and information.

Dan Rather on election night 2000 killed off the credibility and ever since then the big media has become a lesser factor.

Look at today, the media is telling us that Trump is down 10pts to Biden. 4+ yrs ago and many/most of us would have believed it. Today? Nobody believes it.

The big factor of this election is going to be that Trump made big gains with women voters.


50 posted on 10/28/2020 11:26:52 AM PDT by Professional
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To: Professional

Sorry, that’s not correct. If Biden wins all three of those states (WI, PA, MI) and all the current RCP “leaning blue” states, he’ll have 272 electoral votes.


51 posted on 10/28/2020 11:32:35 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

The chances that Trump were to win 2/3 of WI/PA/MI and lose, are only statistically possible. And if he wins those three, no way in hell he loses OH/FL.

If just 1/10 female Hillary voters switch to Trump, this party is wayyyy over.

Many of us forget how the left manipulated/distorted Trump to make him unappealing to female voters in 16. Those women have seen a Trump over the last 4 years that has certainly not behaved like the Slick Willy2 they were warned about.


52 posted on 10/28/2020 11:36:12 AM PDT by Professional
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To: Professional

>>The big factor of this election is going to be that Trump made big gains with women voters.<<

That would really surprise me. I think it’s more likely that the big factor will be the increase in GOP votes from black voters. I also think a larger percentage of Trump voters are messing with pollsters this time around, but that’s just a guess. For my part, I’m sure I’d lie to them this time around, but I haven’t been asked.


53 posted on 10/28/2020 11:38:05 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Professional

>>The chances that Trump were to win 2/3 of WI/PA/MI and lose, are only statistically possible. And if he wins those three, no way in hell he loses OH/FL.<<

You’re not addressing what I wrote. You said Trump can win without any of those three states. But if Biden gets all three, plus the leaning blue states, he wins with 272 EV’s.


54 posted on 10/28/2020 11:40:45 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

I’m not sure which states are blue that Bush won. Bush won by securing OH and Florida. I suppose if Trump cannot win any of the Great Lakes 3, then he may also then lose FL. But that would be a surprise to me and everyone else around here.

Well, all I can say is that we’re going to find out soon thankfully. I’m so sick of this 2020 year...


55 posted on 10/28/2020 11:42:57 AM PDT by Professional
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To: ScottfromNJ

Agreed. We’ve seen so many lies from the MSM over the last 4 years, blatantly more obvious than anytime before that, I don’t believe anything they are saying.


56 posted on 10/28/2020 11:43:48 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Professional

Bush won VA, NM, and CO in 2004, totaling 27 EV’s. They’re currently leaning blue and if Biden gets them, plus WI, MI, and PA, he’ll have 272 EV’s as I wrote. That’s the reason Trump is hitting the midwest hard now.

Here are the landslide numbers:
Trump wins MN, MI, PA, and WI in the Midwest, along with IA and OH, and takes back VA, NM, CO and even wins OR, plus taking FL, and NC in the south and Maine and NH in the Northeast. He’d win the Electoral College 362 to 176. That’s about the best he can do, and that’s wildly optimistic. But the routes to 270 are definitely there.


57 posted on 10/28/2020 1:19:47 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: CassieL

Same here, anecdotal, but definitely more than 2016. And people are not shy about Biden, they seem to be disgusted by the DNC’s BS process foisting that loser off on them. And people I don’t know well, when they talk about the election at all, in 2016 were all about Hillary, this year hardly anyone about Biden, but actually lots of favorable about Trump.


58 posted on 10/28/2020 5:54:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Have you had a chance to check Wikipedia, an almanac or history book yet about the results of of the 74 and 76 elections?

There really is a lot online including the network election night coverage which is fascinating. Every Midterm and Presidential election since 1948 is on youtube. You could also just wiki the election in question as they are generally accurate with regard to publicly available election results. GOP suffered landslide lost in Congress in ‘74 after Nixon resignation on Aug 9. In ‘76 Carter narrowly won presidency. Reagon then won in 1980 with a 45 State Landslide and picked up 13 seats in Senate.

59 posted on 10/28/2020 8:47:31 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon (You can numb you got the plate OK thanks)
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To: suasponte137

Welcome brah.

I, too, was a newbie in 1999.

Now I am an oldie. :)


60 posted on 10/28/2020 9:01:21 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The NYT commits acts of violence with their words.)
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