Posted on 11/11/2020 12:57:38 PM PST by bitt
“That isnt how the Chinese work. They are all over Africa, and not a shot has been fired.”
It can’t be quick enough.
I support 100% unilateral withdraw over a period of one week, max. And that would be too long.
Also, from one of the FOBs, you can see ruins from Alexander The Great’s excursion into Afghanistan...
“Afghan mountains are full of them.”
So is the US desert southwest.
We just don’t mine them here like we used to. It’s dirty business.
Yep....get out of dodge ....now.
Yes. When I said that the Chinese did not care, I really mean they Do not care. Alive, dead, whatever. It doesnt matter to them. Chinese lives ( barely) matterno others.
Sounds like one or more nations have got America between a rock and a hard place.
Perhaps our nation's focus should be getting us out of that position before it becomes too late.
Perhaps making a few announcements to our global neighbors about what is acceptable in terms of nations making hostile moves against or in other nations and then enforcing the issue would suffice.
Of course, with a Biden-Harris admin it is a moot point.
I have a cousin who serves near the DMZ. The real reason why we’re there is to checkmate China, nothing else.
Not to defend Sokor etc. The more we move out, the vacuum simply is filled by the chicoms. I can understand Afghanistan but as some articles pointed out, the more we withdraw, our enemies fill in the gaps until we are surrounded.
“...the Chinese did not care,”
Bump
The real reason why were there is to checkmate China, nothing else.
But Afghanistan is different. Historically it was part of the Great Game between Britain and Russia. For the first half of 20th century it was not considered strategically important except as a buffer between British India and Russia.
When the Soviets invaded in 1979 (how time flies!) we and the Paks encouraged Afghan resistance and 10 years later, the Soviets left. But by this time radical Islam had taken over neighboring Iran. Radical Islam now became a thing and was seen as a threat, not quite as big a threat as communism, but a force to be countered.
So now we have Afghanistan bordered by Iran to the west, Pakistan to the east, and Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan to the north and a very tiny border with China in the northeast. Don’t know which enemy fills in the gap if we leave, and anyone holding Afghanistan doesn’t seem to be in position to ‘surround’ us.
Military Industrial Complex... Daily operations tempo alone costs millions a day considering wear and tear, replacement equipment, and eventually bod, bags and coffins. Literally the biggest technology driver in US and world.
Mac pissed off all the right people. I have always liked him.
Stand up guy. He tells people what he thinks, President down to common man. But I thought he was acting Ambassador to Germany?
A good article he wrote:
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/only-way-donald-trump-can-truly-put-america-first-33111
20 Years is long enough. Time to get out.
This is why Trump cleaned house at the Pentagon. Full withdrawal from Afghanistan is no doubt the plan.
Good! Our troops have done a spectacular job in a third world cesspool with less than clear objectives for almost 2 decades!!!! Let that sink in, to anyone who thinks we still need to be there.
The Chinese want their stuff and they will pay for it. They couldnt care less about the Afghan people.
And the folks who are pushing the Biden steal couldn’t care less about the American people. Given that bring our boys/girls home.
The Chinese want their stuff and they will pay for it. They couldnt care less about the Afghan people.
And the folks who are pushing the Biden steal couldn’t care less about the American people. Given that bring our boys/girls home.
The more we move out, the vacuum simply is filled by the chicoms. I can understand Afghanistan but as some articles pointed out, the more we withdraw, our enemies fill in the gaps until we are surrounded.
Our enemies are here. Our votes become meaningless if our elections are stolen. When the enemy is inside the wire you deal with that threat first.
Yep.
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