Posted on 11/12/2020 2:47:12 PM PST by Kaslin
Well, after that big legal win in Pennsylvania—it’s time to dig in and fight on. I’ve been teetering, folks. I won’t lie. I still think we’re in Hail Mary territory, but there’s still a chance. We still need to count the ballots and tally the legal votes. We have allegations of voter fraud that should be investigated. And we have the legal challenges that need to play out. As Katie wrote today, Team Trump scored a big win in the Keystone State:
A Pennsylvania judge has ruled in favor of the Trump campaign by concluding segregated ballots should not be counted. Further, the judge found that Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar lacked the "statutory authority" to change election law just days before Election Day.
"[The] Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance to Respondents County Board of Elections insofar as that guidance purported to change the deadline in Section 1308(h) of the Pennsylvania Election Code...for certain electors to verify proof of identification, based on Secretary Boockvar's interpretation and application oof the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's decision in Pennsylvania Democratic Party v. Boockvar," the ruling states. "Accordingly, the Court hereby ORDERS that Respondents County Boards of Elections are enjoined from counting any ballots that have been segregated."
Pennsylvania.
State statute forbids destruction of ballot envelopes prior to two years. That illegal act throws into question auditing; thus, it could be argued, those votes cannot be certified.
(There are 100K suspect mail-in ballot dates, per the state's official database.) pic.twitter.com/w6SClNECk5— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) November 12, 2020
Pennsylvania.
State statute forbids destruction of ballot envelopes prior to two years. That illegal act throws into question auditing; thus, it could be argued, those votes cannot be certified.
(There are 100K suspect mail-in ballot dates, per the state's official database.) pic.twitter.com/w6SClNECk5— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) November 12, 2020
This is why you keep fighting. The old GOP would have caved and rolled over like a dog. The Trump Republican Party doesn’t stop until there’s no time on the game clock. We discussed one way this race could become a nightmare for Democrats, which is grounded in Biden ballots being invalidated in Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia over fraud concerns. It wouldn’t take many ballots, with about 45-50,000 or so—somewhere in that neighborhood. These votes would lead to a 269-269 tie that could bring this race into the House of Representatives. The GOP holds the advantage regarding state delegations 26-23. Yet, before that, let’s focus on the electors.
When former aides to Bill Clinton are saying there’s a chance, it’s not tinfoil hat stuff, which is how the liberal media has treated this. Graham Allison wrote in The National Interest about one path that’s being ignored. He called it a “stealthy road,” one that’s being overlooked. We have to go back to the 1876 election. Allison noted that state legislatures have the authority to declare that the popular vote was corrupted, thereby, permitting them to send a competing set of electors. I’ll let him explain the rest [emphasis mine]:
I believe the current consensus is missing the fact that Trump has a second, viable stealthy road to victory. I’m reluctantly betting that the debate about who won will continue until at least January 6 when slates of electoral college members are opened in Washington, and most likely beyond that as whatever is decided then is appealed by the loser to the Supreme Court. My conclusion reflects the analysis of my colleague in the Applied History Network at the Belfer Center which is below.
As he notes, this stealthy road follows in the footsteps of a number of previous contested American elections, especially the 1876 election that pitted Tilden v. Hayes. Then as now, each state must decide on a group of electors to meet with a joint session of Congress on January 6 where the winner of the presidential election is declared. The normal practice in a state where Biden won the popular-vote total would be for state election officials to certify the results and send a slate of electors to Congress. But state legislatures have the constitutional authority to conclude that the popular vote has been corrupted and thus send a competing slate of electors on behalf of their state. The 12th Amendment to the Constitution specifies that the “President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.” That means that in the case of disputes about competing electoral slates, the President of the Senate—Vice President Pence—would appear to have the ultimate authority to decide which to accept and which to reject. Pence would choose Trump. Democrats would appeal to the Supreme Court.
Alternatively, if at that point, no candidate has the required 270 electoral votes, the 12th Amendment stipulates, “the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote.” [GOP has the majority there]
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…both the words of the 12th Amendment, and historical precedent offer a credible, stealthy, winding road that could lead to Trump’s victory and a second term. Or as the saying goes: the opera ain’t over till the fat lady sings.
He then details his points further but did add that Trump only has a 20 percent chance of pulling this out. Still, that shows this isn’t all nut bar factor six. Keep fighting. Keep counting he legal votes—and stay in the trenches. Also, aren’t you glad we confirmed Justice Amy Coney Barrett before Election Day.
I don’t know Trump’s history with Hail Mary’s, but his history of being able to do the impossible is stellar.
There will be 4 more years
Where are these idiots coming up with their calculation that Trump only has a 20% chance?
There was massive fraud
The truth will come out and people will know about it
This is thoroughly unprecedented and scary stuff
The writer is talking about it like handicapping a Super Bowl
About Clinton...it was Whoopie who got me thinking...the other day in her “Suck it Up” scree against Trump voters ...paraphrasing, she said “Hillary Clinton conceded/didnt demand a recount”
OK so what happened back then ??? Early on Wednesday morning one of Hillary’s people called the Trump campaign to say she had conceded she never called herself...why did they call ??? why was Hillary so stunned and suffering too much so to call herself ???
Because the fix was in for the 2016 election too...the Democrats had tried this cheating then also but not quite as organized and ‘perfected’ as this time...
Hillary wasnt hiding in the basement but she could have...she was supposed to win...through fraud...the same kind as this time...
Now McCain and Willard especially Willard didnt run very hard...but was the same cheating arranged for Obama ??? 208 ??? 2012 ???
Thanks Whoopie Now suck it up Buttercup when President Trump wins...
The fight is only beginning!!
“The old GOP would have caved and rolled over like a dog.”
Probably so, but, much to my surprise, they did dig in hard in 2000, and they even won. Not as much comparison in the media as one would expect.
” the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote “
Interesting that the Founders thought it so important to limit the House’s democratic nature in even this event.
They were no fans of mob rule.
Oh I meant to say...Clinton’s people didnt want a recount because the organized cheating would have been revealed...
l8r
Ditto.
Our Founders insights into human nature were divinely inspired IMO. It's taken me decades to full understand the necessary genius behind the electoral college system and why our gov't is designed the way it's designed. When I was still a young voter in the era of Perot/GHWB/BJClinton, I, like many young people now, was all about popular vote. I know how dangerous that is and I talk to any of them who will listen. I talk to them about the dangers by analogy in terms of things they care about like racial injustice and representation.
Yes there was massive fraud and unless the SCOTUS declares this election to be illegitimate, it has been the history of election fraud to let the result stand rather than overturn the election. So knowing the history of Judicial rulings on election fraud, the verdict will be more than likely fraud did occur but the count stands as is leaving Biden as the winner.
Yes I strongly believe they cheated in 2016
Wow decades to understand that the founding Fathers knew that city population density could lead to an uneven election and wanted to give everyone an equal investment in the casting of their vote. Simply put the EC was designed to even out those areas with denser populations versus those with less dense populations. Otherwise why would Nebraska evn need to vote compared to that of NYC? My first vote was cast in 1988 and I knew this back then. But then again I took Civics in school as it was required back then in Ohio.
Our Founders weren’t just concerned about city/rural areas.
They divided monarchial, aristocratic and democratic attributes through the government for many reasons.
Their civic education included studying Herodotus.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1390329/posts?page=3
Can’t keep doing that why even have elections
This is not true. Congress decides if no one gets a majority of the appointed electors. Since there are only two candidates running with any electors it would most likely never get this far.
She also knew there was not fraud implemented by the Republicans. Plus it might have revealed the Dem methods they have been perfecting.
Agreed. Watching War Room today has reinforced my feeling that the steady path to reclaim victory is very possible and clear. Tune oit the bs mainstream noise.
If it turns out that his case is as weak as the MSM claims and he is just bluffing, he will have angered his 70+ million supporters almost as much as the evident fraud has.
I don't think the Donald Trump we have come to know over the last four years would do that. If he thought it was hopeless or even difficult, he would level with us - if for no other reason than to keep his supporters on board for the 2024 nominee, whether it is him or Pence or someone else.
See my tagline.
(wanna guess where I went to college and learned about the gory details of the election of 1876 :-) )
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