Posted on 12/06/2020 9:15:29 PM PST by rktman
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“Also the present solar theory is firmly grounded in Gradualism - no sudden changes anywhere in any aspect.”
I thought Immanuel Velikovsky changed all that.
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I.V. is still relegated to the kook fringe as far as mainstream science and history goes. I said “present solar theory” meaning mainstream science
He was a psychiatrist, a student of Freud.
What would you expect.
I forgot to put the /s in my original post.
Whatever you may believe, he was remarkably accurate when it came to predictions of surface and atmospheric conditions on Venus in the 1950s - before any probe had gone there.
The dismissal you gave is exactly the same meme that mainstream science gave, without being able to account for his Venus predictions (which at the time was believed by mainstream science to have earth-like conditions).
See “Velikovsky Reconsidered” for more.
Actually that is not quite true. To support an argument [i]against[/i] man made global warming, the earth has been in an ice age state as normal for 80% of the time, and warm only 20% of the time as a natural cycle. And even with human influence it is going to go back into a glacial cycle again soon, it is past due. And it will warm up after that once again.
But something does heat it up and bring it out of glacial cycles into interglacial cycles quite rapidly. These glacial/interglacial cycles correspond with solar insolation cycles, and orbit very well could be one influence of several at the same time such as polar shift along with precession that causes this very real cycle proven by Paleoclimatology.
With whatever influences that cause it, a natural long term climate change cycle is indeed real, man made “climate change” is not.
In his 1979 science book Broca's Brain: Reflections on the Romance of Science, astronomer Carl Sagan wrote that the high surface temperature of Venus was known prior to Velikovsky, and that Velikovsky misunderstood the mechanism for this heat.[14]
You’re going to give Hank Johnson a heart-attack.
—— the sun and its planets form a chaotic system——
The article speaks of periodic shifts in earth’s orbit.
A more accurate thought is that the orbit is in continuous change. The orbit is not fixed. The chaotic nature of the galaxy is continuous change as gravity and accretion act on uncountable bodies in the galaxy
Every body in the galaxy from the smallest asteroid to the largest star acts on the earth orbital path
I read his book, “ages in chaos” in the late 1960’s. It was about the same time the oil exploration articles on the fractured quartz in the Yucatan showed that an asteroid hit earth creating world chaos.
Then the magnetomer research along the Mid Atlantic Ridge in the 70’s showed the earth field reversals.
When I retired in the 1990’s I became a Spaceweather addict and searched for more.
I presented a theory about the coordination of the earth’s magnetic axis of the core creating a dynamo effect with increased friction in opposition to the geographic axis that changed earth’s magnetosphere.
That was in the mid 1990’s.
I showed that when the earth’s axis aligned, the dynamo influence decreased making the earth vulnerable.
When the sun has reverse polarity CME’s every 22 years, combined with the axis alignment every 2,000 years, earth enters a perfect storm every 44,000 years.
When I spoke with the astro physicists, who specialized in planetary gravitational field research, they told me the earth’s core is the stabilizer that most planets don’t have.
I always try to understand the bigger picture.
Isn't it funny how all the other factors such as planetary orbits, volcanic eruptions, and comet impacts are treated as "possible", yet "massive" CO2 and temperature increases are stated as positive facts. Yet, these are the least supported "facts" in the entire tale. There is absolutely NO supporting evidence given for either of these.
In his 1979 science book Broca’s Brain: Reflections on the Romance of Science, astronomer Carl Sagan wrote that the high surface temperature of Venus was known prior to Velikovsky, and that Velikovsky misunderstood the mechanism for this heat.[14]
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So there was that fraud and liar Sagan pontificating on what was IV wrote over 20 years prior when main-streamers, like Sagan, believed Venus was and Earth-like planet that had vast jungles, animals, and maybe people of some sort; no one in any scientific community knew anything about the surface and atmospheric temperature of Venus, and not much more about Mars.
And you are using that Wikipedic Saganism to discredit IV? So tell me who, in the 1950, understood what the mechanism for heat was on any planetary body and, given that, how did IV get it right?
In fact, science in the 1950s came out and said, ‘we know know everything about science, and its just a mater of filling in the details’. So take Sagan with a bucket load of salt, for all he was worth.
And thus the dangers of using Wikipedia for any sort of fact or citation.
Wrong!!!!!!!!!
Even a 2 year old kid knows global warming was first caused by man’s discovery of fire. I mean, just how else did all those dinosaurs die? Global warming was so bad back then it caused the Great Flood.
IV published at least 6 books and many more were written about his ideas.
Eccentric exactly does not mean that Earth’s orbit has changed over time. Eccentric in an orbit means not perfectly circular. It actually means the same thing as elliptical.
The fact that all he exoplanets discovered so far are close to their stars is more to do with our methods of discovering them than their actual distribution in space.
Yes, he published books.
It was all nonsense.
His ideas violate physical law as known.
Kind of like the hollow earth ideas.
He noted many myths, then fabricated his stories about planetary movement to fit the myths.
The only evidence was the myths.
So, he said Venus was hot. So?
Throw out enough Barbara Streisand, you are bound to get a hit or two.
Maybe he used common core physical law?
Hot yes. as well as the extreme pressure, nearly exact surface temperature, gas composition and so on.
Known laws of physics are overturned regularly - and most of cosmology, planetary origin and placement in solar systems, like ancient (megalithic) history, as well as human descent is in turmoil - so saying something is nonsense, these days, is in itself nonsense.
You are certainly quick to stick up for the current scientific meme. You’d probably dismiss James Clerk Maxwell’s 200 quaternions as abominations, like Heaviside did.
You got THAT right!!
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