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I hear the Pope is ok with the vaccine, if you're ok with the Pope, such as he is. I'm not scheduling an appointment until I speak to a qualified Rabbi. As a general rule, matters of life and death supersede all of the mitzvot except for the admonitions against idolatry, illicit sex, and murder. How this applies in this instance is subject to debate and deliberation above my pay grade.
1 posted on 12/31/2020 10:32:38 AM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Dr. Lee explained ...... “a fetal cell line is not the same as fetal tissue.”... These cell lines began with a cell taken from fetal tissue, but the actual cells used for research were “multiplied into many cells of the same kind.” ....

So the origin IS from a cell taken from a fetus...then multiplied..... however how they do that isn’t stated.


2 posted on 12/31/2020 10:47:40 AM PST by caww ( )
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To: Eleutheria5

1 Corinthians 8 comes to mind.

HEK293 are not fetal cells. They aren’t even human anymore in that they were transformed via viral transduction, then selected for over time for cells that survived and that grew well and were easy to maintain. These selected cells no longer have the human complement of 46 chromosomes.

The initial source of cells used to be modified and selected to create this stable cell line was a girl who was aborted in Europe in 1973. The reason for the abortion or whether it was spontaneous or induced is not known.

The cells are not in the vaccine or used to make the vaccine but we’re used To separately grow proteins that are used in a test to see if the vaccine was functioning right.


3 posted on 12/31/2020 10:54:01 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Eleutheria5

How again is this different than using the skins of dead Jews to make lampshades? I mean, after all, they -were- already dead, right?


5 posted on 12/31/2020 10:55:25 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Eleutheria5

On the one hand you have cells created from the source cells
taken in 1973. Not good.

On the other hand you have a lot of living people today that
could be infected if you contracted the disease and spread it.

I don’t think either a yes or no decision is free from moral
weight.


6 posted on 12/31/2020 11:00:54 AM PST by DoughtyOne (foreign collusions did happen, it just wasn't 2016 when it happened)
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To: Eleutheria5
First, it’s important to identify the provenance of the cells used in testing. In the case of both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, it was HEK 293 kidney cells that were used. These are believed to have originated with an abortion [slain infant]...
9 posted on 12/31/2020 11:24:55 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Eleutheria5

Look, the odds are against you!

There is only a +99% survival rate to this virus!

You have to do whatever you can to overcome those odds...

/s


14 posted on 12/31/2020 12:23:41 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... )
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