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Morgan Stanley: Gasoline Industry Is About to Become Totally Worthless
Oilprice ^ | Feb 09, 2021 | Alex Kimani

Posted on 02/11/2021 1:41:15 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: MalPearce

You only get that “profit” because the utilities are FORCED to purchase your generated power WHETHER IT NeeDS IT OR NOT.


141 posted on 02/12/2021 2:51:06 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: JCL3

Will own nothing in heavan either.


142 posted on 02/12/2021 3:54:09 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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To: Chickensoup

Not true. I can just leak the surplus into the grid and get nothing for it.

Or, I can get another energy supplier and opt into a tariff based on split time of use - buying electricity would get more expensive in daylight hours but would be very cheap at offpeak times.

But, my current supplier is currently wanting to get in on the act and is very interested in setting up a new tariff where I would sell them the excess from solar and they use it to service peak demand, and I top my battery up between 2am and 4:30am at a discount.

For a country that prides itself on entrepreneurism and capitalism, America seems fantastically anti-choice, backward and restrictive when it comes to commercialising next-gen utilities.

It’s the same with telecoms. The UK is nowhere near as innovative as some other countries, but even ten years ago I had four completely different high speed internet technology options on top of the state sponsored copper infrastructure. With over 60 suppliers to choose from.

And I live way out in the sticks. I talk to American colleagues and they’re about as spoiled for choice as the UK was... in 1996.


143 posted on 02/12/2021 4:10:48 AM PST by MalPearce
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To: MrChips

You got the idea in your moniker, MrChips, but it can not be used like cow chips or Buffalo chips but horse apples, I am told, makes a dang good pie


144 posted on 02/12/2021 4:17:25 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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To: MalPearce

You mean 8.32kW hours right?


145 posted on 02/12/2021 4:06:24 PM PST by dalight
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To: MalPearce

We used 50kW hours per day ave. last month with no A/C loading. - so.. your solar rig is about 1/6 of my normal usage and we heat with Gas.

It’s nice, but honestly, your set up is small potatoes compared to the demand. I will still follow up as my Mom’s place is more ideal for this sort of supplemental solution.


146 posted on 02/12/2021 4:13:17 PM PST by dalight
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To: MalPearce

Please freepmail info on your panels. Thanks micb


147 posted on 02/14/2021 4:26:42 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: MalPearce
Thank you for your informed and well reasoned responses.

I have a friend who has built a commercial system, himself, which is completely off grid.

It works, but mostly because he was able to scrounge panels and parts, such as inverters, from other systems.

His battery system is old-school deep cycle lead acid (again, scrounged, not retail)

He would gladly trade everything for grid access, but it is not an option.

The main problem is the extremely time-consuming maintenance, especially of the battery system.

This is in one of the most favorable places in the world for solar power... SW Arizona.

I love to see solar power become more affordable for an off-grid power source, which is where it shines.

I would love to see it competitive as an alternative to the grid for residential use.

Your analysis needs to be done as a cash-flow, net present value to make a real comparison on cost.

The non-monetary value you are getting makes plenty of sense, and is important for any decision maker.

148 posted on 02/14/2021 6:52:36 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: freedumb2003

Ok, that’s what I thought you meant. I agree.


149 posted on 02/15/2021 3:22:05 PM PST by raybbr (The left is a poison on society. There is no antidote. Running its course will be painful. You )
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