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Use a Gun in Chicago in Self Defense with No FOID, Go to Jail
AmmoLand ^ | 30 March, 2021 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/04/2021 6:00:11 AM PDT by marktwain

On Monday, 22 March, in Chicago, 15 people were recorded as being shot. Three of them were killed. One of those shot is recorded as acting in self-defense, on the South Side of Chicago. From the Chicago Sun Times:

An hour prior, a man was shot in South Deering on the South Side. They were sitting in a parked vehicle about 10 p.m. in the 2500 block of East 109th Street when two people walked up to them and fired shots, police said. A 25-year-old man was struck in the face and grazed in the neck area. He pulled out his own gun and returned fire but did not strike anyone.

He was taken to the University of Chicago Medical Center in fair condition. Police said a handgun was recovered at the scene, and the man does not have a valid FOID card or concealed carry license. He was taken into custody and charges are pending.

The case is of interest because it appears to be self-defense; the police do not mention the injured man as having any prior convictions, and the 25-year-old who was shot did not have a Firearms Owner Identification Card (FOID) or a Concealed Carry License (CCW).

Map of homicide and self-defense in Chicago 2018

The backup to obtain a FOID in Illinois was about four months in 2020. It is supposed to be done in 30 days. The backup was another four months, on average, for a CCW permit. A FOID is required before a CCW can be applied for.  Several lawsuits have been filed. In March of 2021, the same numbers were cited. The times to obtain a FOID or CCW in Chicago have been reported as significantly longer.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; defense; foid
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An FOID is a Firearms Owner Identification card
1 posted on 04/04/2021 6:00:11 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The founders would be disappointed in us


2 posted on 04/04/2021 6:06:46 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: marktwain

Thanks to progressivism we’ve gone from a country where the people were free and governments needed specific authorization to do stuff to one where governments are free and people need licenses etc to do almost anything.

That was not progress.


3 posted on 04/04/2021 6:07:05 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: marktwain

The goal of the left is to take guns from the honest, non-violent citizens and leave them in the hands of violent criminals. They do not want us to have the right to defend ourselves.


4 posted on 04/04/2021 6:12:46 AM PDT by I want the USA back (I fear my government many times more than I fear the chinese kungfu virus.)
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To: marktwain

This does not shock me at all. Foxx refuses to prosecute gang members and felons who are in possession of firearms illegally. But she has no problem going after a guy who was defending himself.

L


5 posted on 04/04/2021 6:16:18 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. , )
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To: marktwain

What we oughta do is turn the tables on them.
They whine about requiring ID to vote? Come back at them with:
“FOID card requirements are racist!”

Of course the origin of all American gun control is racist, so there’s that.


6 posted on 04/04/2021 6:20:29 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Only a moronic, suicidal group would try a Great Purge 2021 on an armed American. We're ready!)
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To: marktwain
Shooting in self defense - big mistake.

In Chicago, always remember to shoot in unjustified offense.

And be black. That way you'll never see a day in jail.

7 posted on 04/04/2021 6:23:25 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: marktwain

Wondering if the cartel, gangbangers and common criminals have a FOID,

OH THATS RIGHT YOU DONT NEED ONE IF YOU ARE THE ATTACKER AND THE ONE COMITTING A CRIME, ONLY IN SELF DEFENCE


8 posted on 04/04/2021 6:28:59 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: marktwain

This sounds like a really good case to take to federal court as a second amendment infringement.


9 posted on 04/04/2021 6:36:45 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: I want the USA back

Respectfully disagree.

The Left would disarm criminals if it could. Not out of any love/conconcern for their victims but out of its desire to remove any effective means by the oppressed of resisting the criminal acts carried out by the state.


10 posted on 04/04/2021 6:46:19 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: marktwain

California also even if you have a permit, even if you are in your home. You will be jailed while it is investigated and your home will be searched, and any and all firearms will be confiscated and never returned. It will be the end of life as you knew it, there is no way to win. And it will cost you everything else you own to “maybe” not go to prison for defending yourself. Not allowing yourself to be a victim is illegal in Ca and you will pay in one way or another. Your person and property are considered public property in common.


11 posted on 04/04/2021 6:51:50 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: marktwain

Separate.


12 posted on 04/04/2021 6:59:16 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: marktwain

All the while, most of the murders by criminals go unsolved. Criminal government seems to be the norm.


13 posted on 04/04/2021 7:04:20 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: marktwain

Racist bastages. /s


14 posted on 04/04/2021 7:05:50 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: marktwain

It isn’t a right if you have to ask permission.


15 posted on 04/04/2021 7:09:53 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: marktwain

Live in Chicago, you’re crazy.


16 posted on 04/04/2021 7:17:32 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Rurudyne

where governments are free and people need licenses etc to do almost anything.

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

With the exception being that one does not need a ‘license’ to vote for the people who infringe all these stupid rules on us.

A few months back when the Ds ‘overtook’ Virginia I mentioned to a friend of mine (who happens to be Black) that ‘now the Libs are in control, we will probably lose a lot of gun rights’ and he replied,
‘So?, ‘WE’ don’t pay attention to that crap anyway’.....
even though it was said jokingly, it does carry a lot of truth to it.


17 posted on 04/04/2021 7:17:39 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "Message to GOP "GO FUnd YOURSELF")
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To: SaxxonWoods

If I owned hell and chicago I would live in hell and rent out chicago.


18 posted on 04/04/2021 7:27:40 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Captain Rhino
The Left would disarm criminals if it could. Not out of any love/conconcern for their victims but out of its desire to remove any effective means by the oppressed of resisting the criminal acts carried out by the state.

That and short term it benefits the left on several levels to have a plethora of violent armed felons roaming the streets.

Most obviously it provides a number of terrified voters who can be stampeded into voting for anyone (falsely) promising to provide peace and safety.

More subtly it provides cover for political assassinations, ask Seth Rich.

End game:
The Left can and will disarm criminals, at least the ones they don't directly hire...

19 posted on 04/04/2021 7:41:00 AM PDT by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: Openurmind

One of a thousand reasons I moved.


20 posted on 04/04/2021 7:47:57 AM PDT by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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