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Egypt "seizes" Suez megaship, demands nearly $1 bln compensation
AFP ^ | 13 April 2021

Posted on 04/13/2021 8:51:09 AM PDT by zeestephen

Maritime data company Lloyd's List said the blockage by the vessel, longer than four football fields, held up an estimated $9.6 billion-worth of cargo between Asia and Europe each day it was stuck.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: containership; evergiven; suezcanal
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To: Renfrew

The restaurant’s insurance policy would cover the damages and loss of business, perhaps. Then that insurer might go after the driver’s Insurance Company to try to recover some or all of what they had to pay out.


41 posted on 04/13/2021 10:17:27 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: zeestephen

Meanwhile, Joe won’t seize anything, except perhaps the last pudding cup.


42 posted on 04/13/2021 10:20:13 AM PDT by ferret_airlift
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To: proust

Not Guilty while being Not Guilty.


43 posted on 04/13/2021 10:39:25 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: C210N
"Ships call sign is 'H3RC',"

I'm not disputing that. In the past though, there weren't numbers in a ship's call sign. It was just four letters.

44 posted on 04/13/2021 10:39:52 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: wardaddy

“I knew a captain made a living for awhile “freeing” seized vessels.”

Another Repo series for TV:)

I looked into something like that when I retired, except it was freeing pirate seized vessels. They used ex SAS and licensed mariners.


45 posted on 04/13/2021 10:40:08 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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46 posted on 04/13/2021 10:43:40 AM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: shotgun

The vessel operator’s and owner’s insurance companies will pay up, the vessel will be released.

The Evergiven is privately owned separate entity from other Evergreen ships just to protect the rest from being financially libel.

I once worked for a tnaker company that had about 23 ships if I remember. Each ship was under individual corporate ownership.


47 posted on 04/13/2021 10:46:01 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: zeestephen

That Israeli canal is looking better all the time, no?


48 posted on 04/13/2021 10:46:39 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: marktwain

An Egyptian pilot working for the Suez Canal “company”. How does that square?

Now they have the ship and the pilot.

As said, the Israeli canal is looking better all the time.


49 posted on 04/13/2021 10:51:43 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: ScubaDiver

The law is so complex and so irrational at times being in business feels like an option of last resort. One of my primary goals during the time I owned a company was to make enough money to never have to do it again to face liability or work again. I made it.


50 posted on 04/13/2021 10:56:46 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: cyclotic

Quick! Call your Farmers agent and see if they cover accidental grounding.


51 posted on 04/13/2021 10:58:22 AM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: montag813

This is maritime law, not trip & fall. Completely different, international body of law and with its own specialized courts.


52 posted on 04/13/2021 11:05:18 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: montag813
Of course they can sue. Then you can counter sue EMS.

You can be sued for anything, but it doesn't mean they're/you're going to win.

53 posted on 04/13/2021 11:07:39 AM PDT by lewislynn ( )
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To: Enterprise
I guess then Cankles is extra special, and gets VIP access to marine call signs... kind of like vanity plates on cars
54 posted on 04/13/2021 11:08:29 AM PDT by C210N (You can trust government or you can understand history. But you CANNOT do both.)
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To: montag813

OH wait! You can sue the restaurant for slipping and falling in their hallway.


55 posted on 04/13/2021 11:11:14 AM PDT by lewislynn ( )
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To: zeestephen

Another link to information on the ship’s arrest and background on financial negotiations.

https://gcaptain.com/suez-canal-authority-holding-ever-given-amid-compensation-claim/


56 posted on 04/13/2021 11:12:14 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: zeestephen

Seems that if an Egyptian pilot is required, that makes Egypt the liable party, unless the pilot’s orders weren’t followed by a negligent crew.


57 posted on 04/13/2021 11:23:31 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: woodbutcher1963

These are all good questions. But, I suspect the phrase ‘general average’ and a few other ‘perils clauses’ are going to become well known in the coming days.

Presuming Lloyds is the insurer - safe bet that Lloyds likely has exposure from multiple claimants in this case - the payout could be gigantic. I’ll super-oversimplify this, but in maritime insurance, when calamity hits, insurers have a battery of clauses to rely upon that help them distribute liability exposure past the vessel owner and operator to the shippers themselves (who of course are insured for this kind of eventuality).

It’s kind of like Oprah when she’s on stage screaming, “YOU GET A CAR, YOU GET A CAR, YOU GET A CAR,’ except in this instance, it’s the primary insurer screaming, ‘You get a claim liability, You get a claim liability, You get a claim liability.’


58 posted on 04/13/2021 11:40:44 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

Pilots are hired for local knowledge. Except for the Panama Canal, the master is still in command.

If the pilot made an error, his license could be proceeded against.


59 posted on 04/13/2021 9:28:15 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

He actually had a series for a while.....

https://www.google.com/search?q=maxx+hardberger&rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS929US929&oq=maxx+hardberger&aqs=chrome..69i57.4612j0j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

I’m the owner he world for he claims was a pirate etc.....rather disdainfully ..a fellow southerner too I might add

I thought well thanks Max

I held my mud and didn’t rat on u

Water under the bridge.....or transom....lol

U know maritime ...not many here get it outside of black shoes

Max had balls.....not like mine ....but adequate....he was very bright and fun to travel with...I think he got his law degree at 55

Houma or Thibodeaux

Me....middle Mississippi .....Hinds county


60 posted on 04/13/2021 11:04:58 PM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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