Posted on 04/18/2021 5:05:25 AM PDT by nickcarraway
Yeah, now you can have your goats in peace.
“Their society, culture, and economy are pretty much the same as 20 years ago.”
They won a vast cemetery...because THEY did all the dying AND what is worse ... gender apartheid still rules.
It means, there have been NO gains for them, since that is still the case.
If we had to do it again?
We don’t. And we shouldn’t.
But it could already be too late to undo the mess that we got ourselves in starting with the so-called Persian Gulf War of Bush the Elder.
I hate to say it but he's right. The Taliban played a waiting game, a slow war of attrition, knowing that we have no strategic interest in Afghanistan and that we would eventually go home, as the British did, and as the Soviets did (both of whom did have strategic interests there). We should have been much more aggressive in our fighting there. Somewhere between where we are now, and annihilating every living thing in the country.
They have to still live in Afghanistan, how is that a “win”.
9/11 was also planned and developed in Florida and Germany, that is the nature of terrorism.
Well, you’re leaving out some important context re Iran, namely that there was that Cold War thing going on and we didn’t want Iran falling into the USSR’s orbit.
Helping to overthrow Iran, certainly made them like the USSR even more. Kinda weird.
The goal was to get OBL and QA, and the Taliban was in the way. We pushed them out of the way and got them. At that point we won. We got them, and brought free elections to Afghanistan.
Where we lost was in staying on afterwards.
At least with Vietnam, eventually the Vietnamese woke up and saw that Communism was a loser.
Afghanistan will relinquish to the Taliban dung heap it was before. You cannot impose enlightened democracy in any country embracing Islam. The people have submitted to a religion that keeps them in a tribal 6th century society.
They wouldn’t say that if President Trump were in the White House.
Agree.
Still don’t care.
We kept Iran out of the USSR’s orbit for several decades, during which it was a good ally and an oasis of pro-Western sanity in a screwed up part of the world. If Carter had made better decisions, that might still be the case.
Well that depends on who is giving the orders to the congress...the industrial military complex? Then we fight for naught.
America is being invaded by the Taliban and those like them, every single day through our open borders.
Our enemies are within, not in Afghanistan.
What's gone for the last ten years hasn't been a war. It's been either nation building or simply maintaining a base of operation against Islamic terrorism.
The lesson, though, is that trying to turn Islamic nations into Western-friendly democracies doesn't work.
Protecting the Poppy Trade.
Hadji is gonna talk crap no matter what happens. Who cares! If they rear their ugly heads again to harm us, we need to completely smash and destroy them. Bomb them into glass.
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