Posted on 05/28/2021 4:48:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
“Then suddenly nothing happened.”
That was probably the Governor of HI that said that.
Then he said he saw the record, it was written down.
End of Story.
Then the fake Certificate of Birth showed up with several tails about how it arrived at the White Hut.
They are all Liars.
There is no Certificate of Birth for Obozo.
All that matters now? We must stop the Communist takeover and subsequent collapse.
During our lifetimes (clinton impeachment as you mentioned) are not when the Congress FIRST decided they were more interested in their own party than they were in the nation. it’s happened before, likely more than once. this is just more of the same. more in our faces since news and facts travel faster and so many more ways then before.
I refer you to Clay Blair’s excellent study of the Korean War, “The Forgotten War”, page 146. I quote LTC Mike Michaelis, who had just been given command of the US Army’s 27th Wolfhound Regiment, and was ordered to immediately deploy from Japan to Korea in July of 1950. “We’d just had our first child-a daughter. The only thing I had time to do was rush to the American Consulate with my wife and get our daughter certified so that SHE WOULDN’T BE A JAPANESE CITIZEN. I put twenty-five dollars, a razor, and tooth brush in my pocket and took off.” His daughter was born in the US Army hospital on Honshu.
Japan had regained it’s sovereignty at that time, and it’s citizenship laws were in effect. Japanese citizenship law held that ANYONE born on Japanese soil was a Japanese citizen. However, the US and Japan had concluded Status of Forces Agreements concerning the children born to US military personnel on Japanese soil. US military bases were LEASED from the Japanese government to the US for use as bases. They were still considered to be Japanese soil. If they were US soil, then the child of a pregnant Japanese worker delivering on a US base would be a 14th amendment citizen, just as if she had delivered in the US Embassy, which is US soil. With the SOFA agreement in place at that time, the Japanese citizenship of their daughter was waived, and the child would be exclusively a US citizen, (not natural born, but by US immigration and naturalization statutes extant at the time,(in the manner of Ted Cruz) Without the SOFA requisite paperwork, Michaelis’s daughter would have been a Japanese citizen at her birth, by JAPANESE law.
A US military base is under “US control” when it is leased from a foreign government. That does NOT make it US soil, unless it is an embassy.
Both Michaelis AND his wife were natural born US citizens, serving their country overseas. Despite this, the location of their daughter’s birth makes her not even a 14th amendment citizen, but a statute citizen via the existing US Immigration and Naturalization laws.
I don’t like this reality, I don’t think that it is fair, but I did not write Article II. Children born overseas even to 2 NBC parents serving overseas are NOT NBC’s
I recall another instance of a shot down Tuskegee Fighter pilot (I think it was from Lt. Col. Alexander Jefferson’s account “Red Tail Captured, Red Tail Free,” but I am not sure) who was interrogated by a German Oberleutnant speaking perfectly accented US English in the Stalag where he was being held.
The airman asked the German officer why he spoke such good English. He explained that he had been brought to the US by his parents when he was 10 years old. He was interned as an enemy alien by the 3rd Reich while visiting Germany by Adolph Hitler’s Declaration of war on the US on Dec 11 1941.
After a brief internment, he said that he had been drafted into the German Army under the German citizenship laws at the time as a VOLKSDEUTSCHE citizen. He fought on the Eastern Front, was wounded and transferred to the Western Front and fought against the Allies in Italy, including US troops. Wounded again, he was sent to the Stalag as an interrogator.
After the war, a charge of treason was considered against him. But the charges were dropped when it was determined that the Germans did have the right to conscript him as a natural born German citizen, under THEIR laws, and that he was a lawful enemy combatant.
Yes, circumstances can certainly dictate when you are subject to a foreign power.
Accordingly, the framers wanted to minimize (not guarantee) the likelihood of undue foreign influence upon the office of POTUS, particularly from a father owing an allegiance to a foreign sovereignty.
I am not claiming that my argument is definitive, but I truly would like to see it adjudicated rather than being ignored, or ridiculed.
There is apparently an image of the original long-form “vault copy” birth certificate of U.S. Senator John McCain, obtained from the Michael E. Moritz College of Law, Ohio State University. The birth certificate was issued by the Panama Canal Health Department, and states that the attending physician was R.F. Annis; the birth occurred at 6:25 PM on August 29, 1936 in Colon Hospital, City of Colon, Republic of Panama. This Certificate of Birth was introduced in a 2008 court case: Fred Hollander vs. McCain and RNC, New Hampshire District Court.
Yes. The lying media quoted the Hawaii governor: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-xpm-2011-apr-27-la-pn-hawaii-governor-obama-birth-certificate-20110427-story.html The governor being a democrat went along with the lying media and became part of the coverup. He didn't have any problem pretending to send a document and instead have the WH create one with photoshop.
Makes perfect sense, if all you believe in is conspiracies.
In a stronger Republic with an American culture, I agree we wouldn’t have to resort to that, but with the media in full control, there wasn’t much else to do but multi task (even with minutiae)and hope.
It actually started sooner, in April of 2008.
In a piece from Politifact titled "His true name is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama", Politifact attempted to debunk a chain email alleging that Obama's middle name was Muhammed. In that investigation (reported in the linked story, Politifact documents this:
But since the rumor persists, we decided to dig deeper.We have now searched every public record we can access and find nothing to support the notion that Obama has a second middle name of "Muhammed" or "Mohammed..."
We have a copy of Obama's marriage certificate from the Cook County Bureau of Vital Statistics in Illinois...
We looked at Obama’s driver’s license record in the state of Illinois...
We searched property records for Obama and found listings...
We also found Obama’s registration and disciplinary record with the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois.
We tried to obtain a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, but his campaign would not release it and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.
The question of Obama's birth certificate began in April 2008 when the Obama campaign first refused to release it to Politifact. The refusal seemed odd given the innocuous nature of a birth certificate. It's been alleged that the Clinton campaign (or an arms-length support group) was circulating the chain email in the first place.
-PJ
READ LATER.
That was a known fact.
This article was published Sepetember of 2016:
2 Clinton supporters in ’08 reportedly shared Obama ‘birther’ story
What section of the Constitution gives the Speaker that authority?
Why would anyone do an OCR scan instead of providing a photostat copy? It's a document. An OCR scan would not provide the proper format of the document's form. That makes no sense.
Answer: the only reason anyone would do an OCR scan of a formatted document is to insert fake data different from the original form.
But that doesn’t make the discussion of it a waste of time.
Yes, on both counts. Moot point but still a point.
It speaks directly to the intentional Communist effort to destroy our once Proud and Free Republic.
I can’t argue with that.
The fundamental problem we as conservatives have is that we think that issues can be discussed with the Left on the merits of the issues. We think that facts matter, and the problem is...they don’t.
With the Left, facts are irrelevant. The goal is what is relevant to them, and facts like “Socialism will not work because it is inherently flawed, and here is why...” are lost on them.
They don’t process facts. They don’t process logic. They don’t process reality. What they feel and what they want is important.
And our problem is, we still don’t get that. We argue the facts, logic, and reality, only to look up for a minute and realize they got what they wanted because they had us occupied arguing it.
Yes...exactly.
Moot point about the last election, but not the next one.
As to your point about Communism, I find it impossible to think that is some kind of mirage when I see this from some 50+ years ago:
[From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [”]united force[”] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
And now we have a vice president that is not a natural born citizen. The swamp doesn’t care as long as the usurpers are their own.
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When Willie Brown’s paramour takes over the Oval Office after Uncle Joe’s handlers order him to keep his yap shut and get back in his basement, she will become the THIRD CONSECUTIVE Presidential Imposter in American history!
One problem with that theory. They didn't change any of the data from document they received and showed to a couple reporters, and the document they mucked with posted on the internet. They are the same document. The only difference is they did some random OCR and then flattened the layers.
The vector font substitutions for bitmap fonts are basically random. They were not from changing or inserting text like name and date of birth.
Why would anyone do an OCR scan instead of providing a photostat copy?
So they could punk the Polarik crowd. And it worked.
To this day I don’t recognize o’doofus as a fellow American.
Thank you that; I’m going to save it.
As someone else pointed out. there are at least 4 things about the certificate that makes you go “hmmmm”. I only remember two at the moment:
1) The hospital was renamed AFTER the date on Obama’s birth certificate, yet Obama’s certificate has the new name, not the old name.
2) The “Race of Father” is listed as “African”. In 1961 it is highly likely that he would’ve been listed as “Negro”.
So they could punk the Polarik crowd. And it worked.
How can you not think that's the ultimate cop out?
Obfuscating is not punking.
Actually, I believe his dad was an Kenyan (and British) citizen, which might explain that.
He sounded bloody hateful in any case, which explains why young Barack chummed around with the communist Frank Marshall Davis who sounded to me like he enjoyed young boys.
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