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Ireland sets EU precedent on Israeli 'annexation'
EU Observer ^ | 27. May 2021, 07:19 | Andrew Rettman

Posted on 06/01/2021 9:27:52 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

When the US wanted to control communism within this country, it did; now they are in the government.

The “native” Irish themselves wanted nothing short of independence; the transplanted Protestants from the island of Britain (a small minority) wanted “home rule” within the UK. In the end, England could only hang onto the part where the transplants were a majority (the north), and even that balance was later upset by the native birthrate. The Protestants are an alien presence on the island; it isn’t their only colony in Europe (see Gibraltar).


41 posted on 06/03/2021 2:41:08 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: faithhopecharity

The US fought communism effectively within its borders until the “counterculture” marginalized the dominant WASP culture; now that counterculture has led communism into our government, public schools, etc..


42 posted on 06/03/2021 2:42:27 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yes. The extreme leftists are back. They’re dangerous. Need to be removed


43 posted on 06/03/2021 6:33:34 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not created, they're excreted." Cicero 2000 years ago)
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To: kearnyirish2

That’s the propaganda line. I learned in history class over there (not sympathetic to Britain) that before 1916, the demand of the Irish was for home rule, not full independence; it was the rapid summary execution of the (many, but not all communistic) rebels that swayed sympathies for the cause of independence.

Given that the Scots are themselves Celts, and that they also spoke (and speak, in many parts of Alba still) a form of Gaelic, how “foreign” were they, really? And also, back in the times of Henry II, how foreign was Catholicism, never mind the subsequent Protestantism? Was Protestantism “foreign” in the lands where it first arose? Is it “foreign” in the USA, where it predominates?

Speaking of “Europe” as an entity indicates sympathy for the European Union, an anti-American entity.


44 posted on 06/03/2021 11:17:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai; kearnyirish2

How many of the Scots who came to Ulster were from the Gaelic speaking areas, and how many were from the Scots speaking ones? Furthermore, the Scottish people originally lived in Ireland before coming over to Scotland, so they basically came back to their ancestors’s homes.


45 posted on 06/03/2021 1:55:11 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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I’ve never heard/read anywhere that Scots “lived in Ireland before coming to Scotland”; the history simply isn’t that old (Ireland is one part of Europe with the most recent human inhabitation). The Celts were steadily pushed across Europe from east to west, and the island of Britain was settled by Celts before Ireland.


46 posted on 06/04/2021 2:39:35 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Olog-hai

That is the most bizarre thing I’ve ever heard, pushed by the most ridiculous propaganda line: That Protestant settlers from the island of Britain are “Irish”. THEY may have wanted home rule, but the original Irish population fought for centuries for independence.

The 1916 rebels themselves were armed by a monarchy (Germany); some were communist-leaning but not most (where else other than Ireland, until recent decades, was religion more intertwined with government?).

Saying the Irish wanted home rule instead of independence ignores the political and economic oppression (all the way up to independence) suffered under the English crown. Who would want to be ruled by a foreign country where it is illegal (to this day) for a Catholic to sit on the throne?


47 posted on 06/04/2021 2:45:13 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Olog-hai

From a couple of weeks ago...

https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2021/05/19/2505809/iran-s-foreign-minister-in-ireland-for-talks

Gave Ireland its marching orders...?


48 posted on 06/04/2021 2:50:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: kearnyirish2

Try reading history. The people who settled in Alba were indeed from Ireland. There is a reason why there was a common language with minor divergences; compare Irish and Scottish Gaelic some time.

Sinn Féin right from its outset was a communist outfit. And calling the German Empire a “monarchy” is a gross misunderstanding of the characteristic of its social order, which was the state socialism of Bismarck—the same state socialism that also helped give rise to the USSR.

I am not merely “saying” that the Irish demand was for home rule. That is fact. There was no demand for independence until the summary executions after the 1916 rebellion, and there was very little sympathy for the rebellion in and of itself; and even after that, it took the form of guerrilla warfare. And in a constitutional monarchy, the real power is in Parliament, not the Crown; the religion of the monarch is irrelevant; and there is also the issue of a Catholic monarch being beholden to the Pope politically, even today.


49 posted on 06/04/2021 9:56:43 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: mewzilla

Not without the EUSSR’s approval. The so-called “united Europe” has always been an anti-Israel entity; after all, it nurtured people like Kurt Waldheim, the infamous UN secretary-general under whose tenure the General Assembly passed Resolution 3379, which equated Zionism (the very notion of a Jewish state in Israel) with “racism”.


50 posted on 06/04/2021 10:20:16 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yeah, but different Celts from the Gaelic speakers. They spoke Brittonic languages, as opposed to Goidelic like Gaelic. They were Picts, British, Welsh. As for Scots living in Ireland before coming to Scotland, look at Dal Riada.


51 posted on 06/04/2021 10:55:26 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

I only see speculation concerning the origins of Dal Riada, and it certainly isn’t established it was Irish settlers moving to Scotland.


52 posted on 06/04/2021 11:53:14 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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