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To: PROCON
Read up on this incident.

This was a matter of a group of Marines remaining in an LVTP-7 for approximately thirty minutes while it slowly filled up with water.

The only lack of leadership was that an NCO on scene didn't tell them all to leave their gear and get out of a sinking craft.

12 posted on 06/10/2021 9:45:21 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("Every high civilization decays by forgetting obvious things." - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Captain Walker
The only lack of leadership was that an NCO on scene didn't tell them all to leave their gear and get out of a sinking craft.

Exactly right. The ranking marine on the track did not take the necessary action to save his men.

The gleeful tones of the two rat congresscritters commenting on this, says it all about how this cost the general his career.

19 posted on 06/10/2021 10:00:05 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Captain Walker
The only lack of leadership was that an NCO on scene didn't tell them all to leave their gear and get out of a sinking craft.

Correct, why any NCO would not tell his men to get top side is beyond me. And why are they training 70 miles off the coast?

20 posted on 06/10/2021 10:01:39 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Captain Walker

Well, to be fair, the other problem was that that LVTP (and a few others) were not seaworthy, and should not have been deployed for a training exercise.


38 posted on 06/10/2021 10:33:30 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Captain Walker

“The only lack of leadership was that an NCO on scene didn’t tell them all to leave their gear and get out of a sinking craft.”

That sounds about right. It was certainly a CF with plenty of stupidity to go around for these marines to drown this way.

This may have been a convenient opportunity for them to get rid of the Major General. I suspect there may have been more rationale (justified or not) than just this accident.


43 posted on 06/10/2021 10:40:07 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Captain Walker

Ya, in the PPCLI, we didn’t wait to get told much of anything, we normally acted on our own.


53 posted on 06/10/2021 11:29:58 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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