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Why most people who now die with Covid in England have been vaccinated
UK Guardian ^ | 6/27/21 | David Spiegelhalter and Anthony Masters

Posted on 06/27/2021 9:27:40 AM PDT by proust

Don’t think of this as a bad sign, it’s exactly what’s expected from an effective but imperfect jab.

A MailOnline headline on 13 June read: “Study shows 29% of the 42 people who have died after catching the new strain had BOTH vaccinations.” In Public Health England’s technical briefing on 25 June, that figure had risen to 43% (50 of 117), with the majority (60%) having received at least one dose.

It could sound worrying that the majority of people dying in England with the now-dominant Delta (B.1.617.2) variant have been vaccinated. Does this mean the vaccines are ineffective? Far from it, it’s what we would expect from an effective but imperfect vaccine, a risk profile that varies hugely by age and the way the vaccines have been rolled out.

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1 posted on 06/27/2021 9:27:40 AM PDT by proust
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To: proust

The plandemic was never about the virus. It was always about an excuse to forcibly inject you with poison because there are too many people cluttering up the landscape for the Bilderberg Group and they want to thin the herd.


2 posted on 06/27/2021 9:30:20 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Tse-tung)
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To: proust
Don’t think of this as a bad sign

Tell that to the grieving mothers you sickos

3 posted on 06/27/2021 9:30:38 AM PDT by Pollard
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The Astra-Zeneca vaccine is simply not as effective as Pfizer or Moderna. Also have doubts about J&J.


4 posted on 06/27/2021 9:31:41 AM PDT by allendale
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To: proust

W h a t t t... “effective but imperfect jab’... The devil of course is in the details.


5 posted on 06/27/2021 9:33:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: proust

These DNA operating systems are NOT vaccines. They do NOT produce immunity in recipients after injections by force, shame, or financial lure.

These DNA operating systems do not stop spread of any virus from the recipient to other uninfected people. In fact, the injected make spread unwanted spike proteins and other bioweapon parts.

These DNA operating systems are NOT approved, but are experimental only available due to Emergency Use Authorization.

These DNA operating systems being a dangerous experiment is not given in an taken informed consent, but is disclosed as an experiment in a liability waivers in the small print.

ANY such Emergency Use Authorization is not legal, because other actual cures already exist (HCQ, Ivermectin, and others). This is NOT discussed in any taken informed consent.

These DNA operating systems are NOT effective and are not safe.

These DNA operating systems have problematic long term problems. blood banks are refusing blood from those whose DNA is now changed. Emboli, cardiopathies, kuru and Steven-Johnson dermatolyses have appeared and are not even reported, or data taken by CDC,etc. anymore.


6 posted on 06/27/2021 9:39:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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To: allendale
The Astra-Zeneca vaccine is simply not as effective as Pfizer or Moderna. Also have doubts about J&J.

You should have serious doubts about all of them.

7 posted on 06/27/2021 9:40:38 AM PDT by upsdriver
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To: proust

Nothing like hoodwinking the People of th eUK.

Ivermectin Drug Therapy is your friend:

The health Alliance Prophylaxis Protocol calls for Ivermectin, Zinc and Quercetin.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-I-MASK-Protocol-v4-2020-11-22.pdf

Apparently the Zinc allows the Ivermectin to bind with the Stick protein on the Virus itself.

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/ivermectin

Source for Ivermectin:

https://dir.indiamart.com/search.mp?ss=ivermectin+tablet&prdsrc=1&src=as-popular%3Akwd%3Divermectin%3Apos%3D3%3Acat%3D-2%3Amcat%3D-2


8 posted on 06/27/2021 9:42:03 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: upsdriver

My thoughts exactly.


9 posted on 06/27/2021 9:43:34 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: proust
Articles like this bring to mind a variation on the used car salesman line "what can I do to put you in this car today?"


10 posted on 06/27/2021 9:43:48 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Except it's not poison. It's actually legitimate vaccine althrough direct mRNA injections for vaccination is new. It's not perfectly safe. The J&J and A-Z are gene therapy that's been around 20 years and used for cancer treatmnt. But you'll be against that too. Just let nature take its course. Finally there are a couple dead virus vaccines for COVID but they are not very effective. They are probably safer though.
11 posted on 06/27/2021 9:45:33 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Diogenesis
They do NOT produce immunity in recipients after injections

I had negative antibodies before and positive antibodies 30 days after.

In fact, the injected make spread unwanted spike proteins

Innuendo at best.

are NOT effective and are not safe.

Somewhat effective and not perfectly safe. We don't yet know how unsafe. As you say it's only EUA and that was jammed through.

These DNA operating systems have problematic long term problems. blood banks are refusing blood from those whose DNA is now changed

Really? I haven't donated blood for years, but maybe I should to test your theory.

12 posted on 06/27/2021 9:49:06 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer

Which companies are making the dead virus vaccines?


13 posted on 06/27/2021 9:49:17 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Candor7

The best post of the week. Thank you.


14 posted on 06/27/2021 9:50:50 AM PDT by thegagline
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To: allendale

Norway has stopped its use in their country citing side effects.


15 posted on 06/27/2021 9:51:41 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Humor is a dish best served dry.)
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To: Candor7

Bttt


16 posted on 06/27/2021 10:03:04 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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To: proust

Upfront saying ‘I don’t know’. But remember listening to virologists months ago auguring that the vaccines, while good for the initial virus will actually be detrimental for other corona viruses or variants if contracted after the injections. Hope these types of stories popping up of late do not indicate their hypotheses were correct - truly. This garbage just needs to be done.


17 posted on 06/27/2021 10:04:46 AM PDT by week 71
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To: kosciusko51

I think the Pfizer one is.


18 posted on 06/27/2021 10:05:39 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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To: kosciusko51

The Chicom’s have one (Sinovac) though, like most things made in China, it’s garbage.

Noravax has one that may be available this fall that looks very promising.


19 posted on 06/27/2021 10:36:17 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdz oncm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: proust
It's .. OK .. because ... It's better to die from something we know than something we can't control.
Or some such. Liberal logic is like a stretching exercise for the brain.

20 posted on 06/27/2021 10:37:56 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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