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Old-school data suggests hurricanes in the Atlantic are not more frequent than in the past
Phys.org ^ | 7/14/2021 | Bob Yirka

Posted on 07/14/2021 5:27:16 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Researchers affiliated with several institutions in the United States has determined that the increase in the number of hurricanes forming in the Atlantic over the past several years is not related to global warming. They suggest instead, in their paper published in the journal Nature Communications, that it is simply reflective of natural variable weather patterns.

Over the past several decades, scientists studying satellite data have found that the number of hurricanes forming in the Atlantic Ocean has been increasing. Many in the field have suggested that this is due to the impact of global warming. A warming ocean, they note would naturally lead to more active atmospheric activity. The problem with such thinking, the researchers from this new effort note, is that satellite data only goes back to 1972. Prior to that date, data on hurricane frequency tended to come from eyewitness accounts, which left out many hurricanes that never touched land. In this new study, the researchers went back to the old record books to learn more about the frequency of hurricanes prior to satellites.

The old-time data stretched as far back as 1851 and came courtesy of records kept by workers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The workers had collected the data from eyewitnesses across the eastern seaboard, along the Gulf of Mexico, islands in the Atlantic and fishermen venturing out to sea. The researchers then calculated the ratios of hurricanes that never came ashore in modern times to those that did, and worked backwards using modern data along with math techniques to estimate the number of hurricanes going back to 1860 that were never recorded. They then plotted those numbers on a timeline.

Researchers found no evidence on the timeline of larger than normal numbers of hurricanes forming over the past few decades—instead, it showed that the numbers were on par with prior spikes in the late 1940s and early 1880s. They also found no evidence indicating that modern hurricanes are any more powerful than those in the past.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: data; global; hurricane; warming; wellduh
Another stake in the heart of our goofy global-warming friends.
1 posted on 07/14/2021 5:27:16 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
D U H !
2 posted on 07/14/2021 5:33:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Folks, if you haven't yet, please start an automatic monthly for Jim and his crew.)
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To: LibWhacker

3 posted on 07/14/2021 5:37:17 PM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: LibWhacker

So when are my insurance rates going to go down? It’s disgusting that insurance companies can raise their rates based on this myth.


4 posted on 07/14/2021 5:39:08 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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They can raise rates based on: 1) Scientific data, or 2) Popular misconceptions, as long as the latter are widespread enough (politics, y’know?).

This suggests we may be in store for a hike in rates based on the dangers we face from UFOs. They’ve been in the news lately. Gotta be a reason. :-)


5 posted on 07/14/2021 5:49:10 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Bkmk.


6 posted on 07/14/2021 6:02:50 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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Some scientists note satellite data starts in 1966. Some say 72 and some say 1980.

When we can't even agree on that how in the world will we agree on what's driving this.

7 posted on 07/14/2021 6:16:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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No no no …this can’t be…paging lil greta the world’s leading climatologist…


8 posted on 07/14/2021 6:30:18 PM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: liberalh8ter

So when are my insurance rates going to go down?

*************

Don’t get your hopes too high. Insurance rates rise with the
cost of replacement. And that has been going up ever since
Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492.


9 posted on 07/14/2021 6:45:53 PM PDT by deport ( )
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To: deport

And he’s still waiting on the claim reimbursement for the total loss of the Santa Maria from Espania Mutual.


10 posted on 07/14/2021 7:33:29 PM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food. )
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To: ealgeone
Some scientists note satellite data starts in 1966. Some say 72 and some say 1980.

First scatterometer laumched in 96 and better ones since then. I would say the good scatterometer data for tropical storms (not yet hurricanes) is less than 10 years old.

11 posted on 07/14/2021 7:52:50 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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yep...the technology keeps getting better and better.

our records only go back to 1851. I always ask the climate believers if hurricanes happened prior to then.

then I ask them how do they know and do they know how many happened?

at this point their brain (?) shuts down and they fall back on their talking points learned from slate, cnn or wherever...they refuse to think.

12 posted on 07/14/2021 7:59:46 PM PDT by ealgeone
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I always ask the climate believers if hurricanes happened prior to then.

The 1800's data is crap. There are many cases where the hurricane goes from nothing to 100 mph in six hours. Ask the climate believers if they believe that global warming causes more rapid intensification. Then ask if non-storm to 100 mph is rapid.

13 posted on 07/14/2021 9:03:54 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: LibWhacker
Hurricanes are worse (according to libs) because they impact more people and infrastructure.
14 posted on 07/15/2021 3:33:28 AM PDT by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane' )
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Typical liberal thinking. The hurricanes aren’t worse, there are just too many people in the way of them! I noticed in small towns in Florida, the houses built on the other other side of A1A weather the storm better than the fancy beach houses. Dumb people building their homes upon the sand do not make the hurricanes worse!


15 posted on 07/15/2021 3:41:25 AM PDT by FalloutShelterGirl (Cool! I found my original screen name!)
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To: kickstart

Libs are dumb.


16 posted on 07/15/2021 6:07:56 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: LibWhacker

Tropical storms never had names before. Now that they are naming them the number of “named” storms has increased due to global warming.


17 posted on 07/15/2021 8:07:39 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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‘Tropical storms never had names before. Now that they are naming them the number of “named” storms has increased due to global warming.”

Look at the named storms this year so far. I commented the other day that I was in the middle of a normal thunderstorm worse than Tropical Storm Claudette which I was in the direct path of. It seems to be bordering on ridiculous to me.


18 posted on 07/15/2021 8:34:36 AM PDT by suthener ( )
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