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Xcel Energy needs a smarter, greener electric grid. But should Colorado customers foot the $344 million bill for it?
The Colorado Sun ^ | Jul 26, 2021 | Mark Jaffe

Posted on 07/26/2021 7:53:27 AM PDT by george76

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15 years ago Xcel said spending $190 million by ratepayers - not stockholders - to upgrade existing power plants was in the rate payers best interest to keep the units running through 2035.

As a regulated monopoly, Xcel is guaranteed Huge profits... Xcel does not care about the rate payers.

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1 posted on 07/26/2021 7:53:27 AM PDT by george76
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2 posted on 07/26/2021 7:54:16 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Rate payers ALWAYS, ALWAYS pay the bill.


3 posted on 07/26/2021 7:59:36 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Technology exists to use solid state fuel cells to covert NG to electricity at about 0.05 per KWhr. With Colorado’s cheep NG prices and price increases during the day, I am wondering if I need to move up my generator project and go off grid even though I live in the city.


4 posted on 07/26/2021 8:02:05 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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Add to that the future black outs - soon to be caused by the political closing of already paid for, reliable, 24/7 power plants... in favor of not reliable solar panels that do not work at night, when it snows, nor when it is cloudy... and wind mills that also do not work 24/7..


5 posted on 07/26/2021 8:09:45 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Coloradians need to put solar onto their homes (assuming they don't have tons of shade, and assuming they don't live under the thumbs of a control-freak HOA).

The Dims lie their butts off when they say things like we'll get completely off of fossil fuels and such. They also lie when they say green energy projects they force onto you are the best way and for your own good. In reality it's to enrich their crony capitalists.

But if you buy a solar system that's customized for your specific energy consumption behaviors, it'll at least remove some of the control the Dims have on your energy needs. My solar system in Alabama produces about 3/4ths of the power I need. Thus I worry less if the govt will force my power company to shut down another coal plant. Nor do I worry much about the fact that natural gas is about twice as much on the commodities market as it was this time last year (due in large part to Biden starting a fracking ban, that impacts my power bill because my power company now produces more electricity from burning gas). All that stuff impacts me only 1/4th as much as it used to.

6 posted on 07/26/2021 8:10:27 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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“put solar onto their homes”

I think an attractive storage building with a solar panel roof might be the way to go.


7 posted on 07/26/2021 8:34:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Agreed. From a standpoint of being easy to maintain and make back what you put into it within 10 to 15 years, that's a good way to go.

But it won't produce a high portion of your energy consumption if your home is fairly large. The surface area of a storage building isn't enough even with 400 watt panels. So you'll still fuss and grumble a lot when the Colorado power company finds reason to raise your rates.

8 posted on 07/26/2021 8:40:40 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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https://www.qwant.com/?client=ext-edge-sb&q=Passivehaus&t=images

Most Passivehauser are quite ugly, but there are exceptions.


9 posted on 07/26/2021 8:44:19 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Tell It Right

Xcel is a Minneapolis- based monopoly ... Xcel is guaranteed a profit on every dollar it spends building new facilities. This is a tremendous incentive for Xcel..


10 posted on 07/26/2021 8:46:51 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Rural electric bills from IREA in Colorado just went up about $40/month.


11 posted on 07/26/2021 8:48:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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“...build a smarter, greener electric grid”

Whenever someone uses catch phrases you know they are lying to you.


12 posted on 07/26/2021 8:51:14 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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Hey, lets have customers pay more to get less reliable and more ugly looking energy. Hopefully this will get cut back to size like most of their prior attempts.


13 posted on 07/26/2021 8:53:32 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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Make the people pay. Make the voterd mad. They wont do anything about it....haven’t since Carter...beyond whining. The profits are up and the politicians get voted in again. System works great for those with the clipboards.


14 posted on 07/26/2021 9:05:53 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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Colorado libtards need to shut up and pay the bill. They advocate green but want others to pay for it. Time to pay the piper.


15 posted on 07/26/2021 9:07:25 AM PDT by trailboss800
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Agreed. I had a similar problem in Alabama.

The HELOC I took out to buy my solar will be paid off in 11 years with the savings I have in my power bill. That assumes an inflation rate of 2% to 3% per year on the kWh charge. If the inflation rate is higher because their being a monopoly has only the state standing in their way, I'll put even more energy savings into my HELOC.

Every month I calculate what my true kWh rate is with all the invisible riders they put into it. That's because I still buy some power from the grid, thus I get a bill showing the kWh purchased, how much my bill is, and I know what the monthly flat rate is just to stay connected. Meanwhile, my solar system also tracks what I buy from the grid. It also tracks how many kWh I consume, regardless of if it came from the grid or solar. The amount I consume minus the amount I buy from the grid equals the number of kWh I saved with solar. I multiply that by the rate and it tells me how many dollars I saved that month. That's how much I pay into my HELOC that month, which pays it off sooner than if I paid just the minimum payment.

When my HELOC is paid off any money I save beyond that will be to expand/repair my solar system to make me a little more independent, then a little more, and a little more. Eventually I might be 95% independent from the energy monopolies and their state and federal crooks.

16 posted on 07/26/2021 9:24:40 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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There will come a time that you will be taxed for the sunshine you use.
There is no getting away from them.
They want you to have nothing.


17 posted on 07/26/2021 9:58:50 AM PDT by Iceclimber58
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Solar panels are ugly, not happening at my house. Besides, I’ll need new roof shingles in 3-4 years. Might reconsider after that.


18 posted on 07/26/2021 10:23:58 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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Fine. So you know who to blame then if the grid fails.


19 posted on 07/26/2021 11:15:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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We have no choice in the matter. Wholly captive we are.


20 posted on 07/26/2021 11:47:06 AM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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