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ept of Homeland Security Makes Official U.S. Government Announcement, If You Question Govt COVID Response You are Considered A Domestic Violent Extremist
Conservative Treehouse ^ | August 14, 2021 | Sundance

Posted on 08/15/2021 4:23:36 AM PDT by gattaca

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If You Question Govt COVID Response You are Considered A Domestic Violent Extremist

Blaming the people is the typical reaction of a bureaucracy when it massively fails; and the Covid vaccines are proving to be a massive failure. Even though there has never been a successful durable coronavirus vaccine capable of generating sterilizing immunity, the government proceeded with a mass vaccination program is if this was the case. Dissenting voices to the contrary were silenced; thrown off public forums such as YouTube.

Due to the corrupt nature of the FDA being incestuously intertwined with Big Pharma, they pushed for mass vaccination of everyone, even those who acquired natural immunity thru prior exposure. They are now targeting children, even though children have an extremely low probability of dying of Covid.

So instead fo a targeted vaccination program for the vulnerable, they attempted to vaccinate everyone, regardless of age or prior exposure. This invoked an extremely targeted selection pressure on the virus very different from what would have occurred if they had allowed natural individualized natural immunity to assist with driving a goal of herd immunity.

The result was rapid diminution of the original strain, obviously. But then less obviously, or perhaps they didn’t care in their lust for obscene profit, they provided the perfect breeding ground to enable the more resistant strains of virus to become dominant. This resulted in the ever growing breakthrough cases, which were initially dismissed. Now the FDA lowered the bar saying, “well, if you get sick, it won’t be as sick if you’re vaccinated”.

Then it was discovered the vaccinated not only could get infected, they carried the same viral load as an unvaccinated person. As a result, now the masks are back, even for the vaccinated. The same masks that were of negligent benefit the first time.

The response to this failure? Double down and start pushing for a 3rd so-called ‘booster’ shot. This is a booster shot which still targets the original strain, which means it will still be only marginally effective against the current variant resulting in more ‘leakage’ of the virus. The result is now a vaccinated population which provides the perfect breeding ground for the eventual emergence of an even more transmissible variant which is even better at escaping the current vaccine immune response.

Now with over 12,000 deaths and 14,000 permanent disabilities attributable to the Covid vaccines (see VAERS) we’ve arrived at a place where a largely vaccinated population is potentially vulnerable to the next variant, there is no herd immunity, no sterilizing immunity, no plan by the FDA to put forward treatments for recovery from Covid instead of the relentless push on only vaccines as the solution, and we have no idea of the long term effects of the vaccines already applied to millions of people.

So of course, anyone who asks questions about this mess and how we got here is a domestic violent extremist.


21 posted on 08/15/2021 5:14:54 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: gattaca

It’s not just our right to question the government, but our responsibility!


22 posted on 08/15/2021 5:15:54 AM PDT by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: unread
So, in a sense, he has already stated he would use nukes against the American people, if need be...

And where will he be hiding when he “uses nukes” against 75 million American Patriots? Given that the 75 million Trump voters are spread all over the country including California.
Remember that President Donald Trump eclipsed 5.5 million votes in California— a million more than he received in 2016 and more than any Republican ever in a state that's home to Ronald Reagan.
So is Dementia Joe going to nuke California?
Chuckle.

23 posted on 08/15/2021 5:28:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: gattaca

So, does that make us deplorable terrorists?


24 posted on 08/15/2021 5:29:16 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: gattaca
if you question the orthodoxy, mandates, or COVID-19 response from the U.S. government, you are now considered a “terrorist”, specifically a “Domestic Violent Extremist” (DVE).

And they can just decide this out of thin air? What supports their conclusion? What exactly does disagreeing with government terrorize? Are thoughts and opinions violent? Am I not being terrorized when my job is threatened over vaccine status? I'm threatened with no travel and shopping if I don't give my body over to their experimental drug? Is my very breathing of air not compromised by their masks rules? Is it not violent to mandate an experimental vaccine against my consent? Where are my guaranteed BoR's...pursuit of happiness is a God given right. No, I'm not the terrorist here. Let's just be honest.

25 posted on 08/15/2021 5:31:50 AM PDT by Irenic ( )
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To: Flick Lives

The FDA has approved the antibodies treatments for not only outpatient , in patient but also preventative use, where have you been.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1275737

They are also proven to be 80% effective no other treatments come close to those proven rates. Not horse wormer nor malaria drug. The antibodies have solid proven science behind them with loads of real world data.

https://www.idsociety.org/covid-19-real-time-learning-network/therapeutics-and-interventions/monoclonal-antibodies/


26 posted on 08/15/2021 5:33:29 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: TTFlyer

Our representatives will never cancel the patriot Act or DHS. This is all about power. We have lost the bitch box and voting box. All that’s left is the cartridge box.


27 posted on 08/15/2021 5:38:57 AM PDT by DownInFlames (G)
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To: SmokingJoe
"And where will he be hiding when he “uses nukes” against 75 million American Patriots?"

That's one of the things that bothers me the most.... The stinking politicians, much like what use to be the big American corporations, seem to have NO allegiance to the United States what so ever.! We hear rumors all the time about them building bunkers in New Zealand..

There seems to be one heck of a lot more commies in DC then American patriots nowadays.. :(

28 posted on 08/15/2021 5:50:22 AM PDT by unread (Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire)
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To: gattaca

Any government that declares those in disagreement with them terrorists is un American and illegitimate.


29 posted on 08/15/2021 5:50:28 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

They are also proven to be 80% effective no other treatments come close to those proven rates. Not horse wormer nor malaria drug.

Except for the latest double blind study of Ivermectin, which you dismissively label “horse wormer”, out of the Israel.

“Ivermectin vs. Placebo for the Treatment of Patients With Mild to Moderate COVID-19”

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04429711


30 posted on 08/15/2021 6:03:24 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: gattaca

DHS’ new definition of who constitutes a domestic terrorist threat is based on the belief that Trump supporters oppose the Covid orthodoxy. It can be used as a pretext for mass arrests and internments.

DHS labeled those who think the election was stolen as domestic terrorists as well. Covering all bases.

Fortunately for us, the fall of A-stan may encourage Islamic terrorists to make a comeback in the US. If they were smart, they’d make the terrorist attacks look like they were done by Trump supporters. A false flag operation would certainly be supported by the media.


31 posted on 08/15/2021 6:06:34 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul (s)
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To: Flick Lives

It will be interesting to see what the results are. There N size is small only 100 patients and they won’t conclude the study till September. Contrast that to the tens of thousands who have had monoclonal antibodies treatment in three phases of clinical trials and real world use by three different makers of monoclonal antibodies the results of those are in the link I provided.

So an N of 100 vs an N of tens if thousands. If I was sick I know which one I would choose. It’s a no brainer the antibodies were isolated and cloned based on their ability to stop the replication of covid they are what nature uses in our own bodies to fight and kill virus the debate is never will they work it’s which ones to isolate and clone that are the most effective at killing the bug. Our body can make 200+ types of antibodies only a few are the killer kind these treatments are isolated and cloned killer antibodies of course they work otherwise our bodies would fail against the covid and it’s death rate would be near 100%. If one is not a poor the obvious choice is cloned antibodies they will work. Why do you think they rushed them to Trump he got well in 48 hours even with at least two comobidities. The best doctors in the world didn’t give the most important man in the world horse wormer they gave him cloned antibodies it’s little surprise why.


32 posted on 08/15/2021 6:19:00 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas

I suggest you take the time from your busy research work to go read the 2 articles you reference. They are still in trials and are not released for use.


33 posted on 08/15/2021 6:21:33 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson was right.)
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To: gattaca

Has the biden crowd decided when to nuke America?


34 posted on 08/15/2021 6:34:40 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die )
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To: gattaca

This statement brought to you by the screeching, left wing, feminist harpies married to deep state weenies.


35 posted on 08/15/2021 6:45:20 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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To: Flick Lives
This invoked an extremely targeted selection pressure on the virus very different from what would have occurred if they had allowed natural individualized natural immunity to assist with driving a goal of herd immunity.

Every thread contains this theory in one form or another. The Delta variant (and all prior variants) came among the unvaccinated. Delta in early Feb in India. The science that I have read says that the virus will mutate to become vaccine resistant. But it will also mutate to become more resistant to natural immunity by reinfecting previously infected people (at a rate of about 1%). Blaming pre-vaccination variants on vaccination is silly.

there is no herd immunity, no sterilizing immunity,

There can't be herd immunity or sterilizing (artificial) immunity against an RNA virus. That's a pipe dream. There is no government on this planet with a response that leads to anything other than mass infection or mass vaccination (or a combination) or mass surveillance and lockdowns. I base my skepticism of governments on facts, not on magical thinking of what it might like on another planet.

36 posted on 08/15/2021 6:46:15 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

“This is how Fascists act when they do not fear free elections.“

EXACTLY where we are right now.


37 posted on 08/15/2021 6:48:04 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: JD_UTDallas

I’ve nothing against MAB, but that is strictly an in hospital treatment. We need to deploy an array of weapons against Covid and that includes simple administered-at-home treatments such as Ivermectin.

As a real world example, Mexico City began a simple regimen where anyone who tested pottivie for Covid, presuming symptoms where not immediately severe enough to warrant hospitalization, was sent home with a small treatment kit of Ivermectin. There was over a 50% reduction in the need for hospitalization in the group that received Ivermectin.

https://principia-scientific.com/covid-deaths-plunge-after-mexico-city-introduces-ivermectin/


38 posted on 08/15/2021 6:50:42 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: Flick Lives

...do you know what was in the Mexico kit and what it costs or where we could get one? Thanks...


39 posted on 08/15/2021 7:01:58 AM PDT by PalominoGuy (a Republic, if you can keep it!)
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To: Travis McGee

Looks like LLoyd is not vaccinated if he’s wearing that mask/shield etc


40 posted on 08/15/2021 7:02:41 AM PDT by butlerweave
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