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No, a Vaccine Mandate Is Not Like Requiring Seat Belts(Adverse Reaction analogy)
National Review ^ | 08-05-2021 | Wesley Smith

Posted on 09/09/2021 7:06:29 PM PDT by Vendome

Mainstream bioethics thinking is growing increasingly authoritarian.

There is a huge difference between a law that requires wrapping a cloth belt around one’s body while in a moving car and injecting chemicals into one’s system. Yes, both acts involve attempts to promote public safety. But the former’s interference with liberty is de minimus, while the latter is one of the most potentially portentous that can be asked of people.

In free societies, legal mandates must be reasonable. A national vaccination mandate — which would be unprecedented — fails that test.

Primary Menu National Review Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Flipboard Email this article THE CORNER POLITICS & POLICY No, a Vaccine Mandate Is Not Like Requiring Seat Belts By WESLEY J. SMITH August 5, 2021 8:24 PM Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Flipboard Email this article

A healthcare worker holds coronavirus vaccines at a vaccination center in El Paso, Texas, May 6, 2021. (Jose Luis Gonzalez/Reuters)

Mainstream bioethics thinking is growing increasingly authoritarian. Princeton’s notorious utilitarian philosopher Peter Singer now joins Ezekiel “Mandate” Emanuel in an internationally syndicated column urging that everyone be legally required to take the COVID jab.

Singer justifies this imposition by comparing the proposal to laws that require people to wear seat belts in cars. From, “Why Vaccination Should be Compulsory:”

We are now hearing demands for the freedom to be unvaccinated against the virus that causes COVID-19. Brady Ellison, a member of the United States Olympic archery team, says his decision not to get vaccinated was “one hundred percent a personal choice,” insisting that “anyone that says otherwise is taking away people’s freedoms.”

The oddity, here, is that laws requiring us to wear seat belts really are quite straightforwardly infringing on freedom, whereas laws requiring people to be vaccinated if they are going to be in places where they could infect other people are restricting one kind of freedom in order to protect the freedom of others to go about their business safely.

Good grief. There is a huge difference between a law that requires wrapping a cloth belt around one’s body while in a moving car and injecting chemicals into one’s system. Yes, both acts involve attempts to promote public safety. But the former’s interference with liberty is de minimus, while the latter is one of the most potentially portentous that can be asked of people.

In free societies, legal mandates must be reasonable. A national vaccination mandate — which would be unprecedented — fails that test.

Why aren’t near-universal mandates “reasonable?” Well, young people almost never become seriously ill from COVID — although a very few certainly do. But there is also some evidence of a very slight — but potentially serious — risk from the vaccines for the young...

Share on Twitter Share on Flipboard Email this article THE CORNER POLITICS & POLICY No, a Vaccine Mandate Is Not Like Requiring Seat Belts By WESLEY J. SMITH August 5, 2021 8:24 PM Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Flipboard Email this article

A healthcare worker holds coronavirus vaccines at a vaccination center in El Paso, Texas, May 6, 2021. (Jose Luis Gonzalez/Reuters)

Mainstream bioethics thinking is growing increasingly authoritarian. Princeton’s notorious utilitarian philosopher Peter Singer now joins Ezekiel “Mandate” Emanuel in an internationally syndicated column urging that everyone be legally required to take the COVID jab.

Singer justifies this imposition by comparing the proposal to laws that require people to wear seat belts in cars. From, “Why Vaccination Should be Compulsory:”

We are now hearing demands for the freedom to be unvaccinated against the virus that causes COVID-19. Brady Ellison, a member of the United States Olympic archery team, says his decision not to get vaccinated was “one hundred percent a personal choice,” insisting that “anyone that says otherwise is taking away people’s freedoms.”

The oddity, here, is that laws requiring us to wear seat belts really are quite straightforwardly infringing on freedom, whereas laws requiring people to be vaccinated if they are going to be in places where they could infect other people are restricting one kind of freedom in order to protect the freedom of others to go about their business safely.

Good grief. There is a huge difference between a law that requires wrapping a cloth belt around one’s body while in a moving car and injecting chemicals into one’s system. Yes, both acts involve attempts to promote public safety. But the former’s interference with liberty is de minimus, while the latter is one of the most potentially portentous that can be asked of people.

In free societies, legal mandates must be reasonable. A national vaccination mandate — which would be unprecedented — fails that test.

Why aren’t near-universal mandates “reasonable?” Well, young people almost never become seriously ill from COVID — although a very few certainly do. But there is also some evidence of a very slight — but potentially serious — risk from the vaccines for the young. If we care about freedom, surely, for the young, vaccination may be the preferred — but should not be the mandatory — course.

There is also significant evidence that people who recovered from COVID already have significant natural resistance to the disease. That being so, is it reasonable to force people with antibodies to involuntarily inject substances into their bodies, particularly since there is a very slight potential for serious bodily injury or death from the vaccine? No.


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At a minimum the difference is there is no adverse effect from wearing a seat belt while there real possibilities of adverse affects from taking any of these shots.

I could find no studies for adverse affects or effects from wearing a seat belt but, I can look at the givernment Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System https://vaers.hhs.gov/

Here we can see thousands of deaths attributed to these vaccines and hundreds of thousands more who have injured.

The seat belt analogy is for a retarded intellect and way to easy to swat down...

1 posted on 09/09/2021 7:06:29 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome

A seat belt isn’t installed as part of your body forever.

You put a seatbelt around you while you drive, then you take it OFF when you choose.

These jabs are in you permanently and they are chemicals no one is willing to tell you exactly what’s in them..


2 posted on 09/09/2021 7:09:11 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Vendome

Something is wrong with your cut and paste.


3 posted on 09/09/2021 7:10:15 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Vendome

If they want to use a collectivist argument for the vaccine, we can use a collectivist argument against abortion.

There are 70-million missing Americans who could be paying for my Social Security because of abortion-on-demand.


4 posted on 09/09/2021 7:10:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: joethedrummer

Car manufacturers can be sued for defective products while vaccine manufacturers cannot...


5 posted on 09/09/2021 7:11:53 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Vendome

Impeach 46.


6 posted on 09/09/2021 7:12:20 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Vendome

From the comments and where I was thinking anyway:

“The seatbelt equivalence is dumb. We know that one of the most dangerous things you can do is drive a car. And serious life altering injuries can occur at relatively low speeds. This is a scientific fact. But COVID has a 98 or 99 percent recovery rate. Furthermore, if you drill deeper into the demographics of those that die, the recovery rate gets better when you take comorbidity’s and age into account. So if you’re healthy and under 65 years old, getting a vaccine is more akin to wearing a seatbelt while you’re sitting on the couch at home watching Netflix.”


7 posted on 09/09/2021 7:12:30 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: GSWarrior

Weird

I checked in preview mode before posting and it shouldn’t have allowed that many words...


8 posted on 09/09/2021 7:13:47 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Vendome

Simple answer. Seatbelt laws are ALSO evil and pointless. there was a time when we didn’t have them or need them. and yes people died, but the better answer was always, education and training, not coercion.


9 posted on 09/09/2021 7:14:09 PM PDT by delapaz
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The deeper question is who owns our bodies, the state or the individual.

If the state owns our bodies they can do whatever they want, and we are slaves to whoever rules the state.

The state would have the right to kill us at will, assign work to us at will, make us move or stand still at will, kneel at will, etc.

We would be puppets on a string, and effectively no longer human beings.

Those are the stakes here.


10 posted on 09/09/2021 7:14:44 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Vendome

Well now that you mention it...there probably shouldn’t be seatbelt requirements either.


11 posted on 09/09/2021 7:16:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Vendome

The seat belt requirement was established as a result of lobbying
by the auto insurance companies to reduce their outlays of payments
on injuries that were incurred in automobile accidents.


12 posted on 09/09/2021 7:16:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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13 posted on 09/09/2021 7:17:32 PM PDT by knarf (qa)
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To: Vendome

The collective retarded intellect at National Review has still never repudiated their “Against Trump” cover, except for Glenn Beck that I am aware.


14 posted on 09/09/2021 7:19:15 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Here were are. Political Idiot mode again

Why is it on every thread your knee jerk reaction is to ignore the thread and post a “hate your own allies” rant?

Your short of political idiots are the best PR Bots the Democrat party have going for them


15 posted on 09/09/2021 7:22:59 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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I just sampled some banana nut bread dough.

So good.

Hope I don’t get sick.

Maybe FDA can save me...


16 posted on 09/09/2021 7:23:26 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: MNJohnnie

Doh!


17 posted on 09/09/2021 7:25:31 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Vendome

I wonder if there is any way a poster would be able to remove the double and triple text in their contribution to the board.

Not doing so makes it difficult and annoying to read.

I wonder if there is any way a poster would be able to remove the double and triple text in their contribution to the board.

Not doing so makes it difficult and annoying to read.

I wonder if there is any way a poster would be able to remove the double and triple text in their contribution to the board.

Not doing so makes it difficult and annoying to read.


18 posted on 09/09/2021 7:27:22 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: MNJohnnie

How do count people who oppose America First as “allies”?


19 posted on 09/09/2021 7:27:33 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Don W

LOL

So annoying

I checked in preview mode before posting


20 posted on 09/09/2021 7:30:25 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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