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Yglesias: A good way to reduce racism might be to do away with mandatory diversity training
Hotair.com ^ | 11-22-21 | John Sexton

Posted on 11/22/2021 1:13:49 PM PST by DeweyCA

Showing once again why he didn’t fit in with the progressive orthodoxy at Vox, Matt Yglesias has a piece up on his Substack today arguing that diversity training might be doing more harm than good. The whole piece covers a lot of territory but he starts by arguing that there’s not a lot of certainty about what works in terms of anti-racist training, but there is some evidence about what doesn’t work.

…as best I can tell, none of the literature seems to support the idea that in-your-face calling-out tactics are effective. What seems to work best are fairly gentle suasion tactics plus efforts to get more people into casual integrated interactions.

In other words, what doesn’t work is what is very popular right now, i.e. Robin DiAngelo telling people that if you disagree with her it’s proof you’re racist. Yglesias doesn’t mention DiAngelo by name but he does argue that, in general, the kind of diversity training that has become common in corporations and colleges is probably doing more harm than good.

Business executives believe that doing these programs has genuine value to the bottom line in terms of protecting them in the face of lawsuits, so they are fairly widespread. Critically, however, the lawsuit-protecting attributes of training do not require the trainings to be effective, and they generally are not. Indeed, as this summary from Frank Dobbin and Alexandra Kalev in Harvard Business Review hints, the main question in this literature is whether the trainings backfire by annoying people:

Do people who undergo training usually shed their biases? Researchers have been examining that question since before World War II, in nearly a thousand studies. It turns out that while people are easily taught to respond correctly to a questionnaire about bias, they soon forget the right answers. The positive effects of diversity training rarely last beyond a day or two, and a number of studies suggest that it can activate bias or spark a backlash. Nonetheless, nearly half of midsize companies use it, as do nearly all the Fortune 500.

Some of the backlashes can be very bad. Leigh Wilton, Evan Apfelbaum, and Jessica Good find that emphasizing themes of multiculturalism can increase subjects’ belief in race essentialism (consider Tema Okun’s work in this light) while Madeline E. Heilman and Brian Welle find that when teams are assembled with an explicit diversity goal in mind, women and Black group members are perceived as less competent, and “this effect occurred regardless of the proportional representation of women or the degree of the groups’s heterogeneity.”

I don’t think many on the left are actually super enthusiastic about these diversity trainings, but the general sense is also that only a bitter crank would actually complain about them. But there is real evidence that they are at least sometimes making things worse, which strikes me as a big deal. For example, Michelle Duguid and Melissa Thomas-Hunt find that when you tell people that stereotyping is widespread, they stereotype more.

I highlighted that bit above because I think there’s a lot more to be examined there. If this training is counter-productive, shouldn’t everyone just say so? Why are so many people worried about being perceived as bitter cranks? Where did that idea come from. As it happens, I think it comes from Robin DiAngelo’s white fragility, i.e. from the same people making bank off the current approach to anti-racism.

In any case, this leads Yglesias to three bullet points about how to improve the current situation. The first is doing away with the legal protections companies enjoy because they host these training sessions. The idea is that if companies weren’t motivated to host them for financial reasons, they would stop and maybe invest in other approaches that might actually work. In fact that’s point three, finding alternatives that actually work.

His second bullet point is the one that caught my eye: “Doing fewer diversity trainings would, based on the evidence, likely somewhat reduce racism.” That’s just a restatement of what he’s argued above, i.e. if anti-racism training is counterproductive then a genuine anti-racist would seek to stop requiring such training, but it’s still striking.

This is where the rubber really hits the road but instead of drilling down on what seems like a key point, Yglesias sort of moves on. But the obvious point here is that anti-racism is now big business. It’s an industry with high-profile thought leaders and hundreds of individual trainers offering variations on a theme for a price. DEI has also become a growing career path for people which often seems to amount to the same messages and approaches but delivered by people who are part of the company rather than hired guns from outside.

All of these people are committed to the concept of anti-racism and I suspect few would agree that their work is counter-productive. But what if you could demonstrate that it is? Would their commitment to anti-racism lead them to abandon their own jobs? Or would they stay on the career path regardless of what the research says? To put a fine point on it, what does Robin DiAngelo believe about the efficacy of her own work? Given that she’s now made a tremendous amount of money off her workshops and bestselling book, would it be possible to get her to admit her methods are counterproductive?

I think the answer is pretty obvious. DiAngelo’s whole approach (white fragility) is labeling any opposition to her message as evidence of the need for her message. So good luck convincing her that, actually, her approach might be doing more harm than good. She’d just roll her eyes at the idea all the way to the bank.


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KEYWORDS: antiracism; crt; dangelo; dei; diversity; diversitytraining; mattyglesias; training; vox
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This article tells us what we already know: CRT training is a heap of garbage and it has become a racket at which some people are making a lot of money. Many people know that CRT training doesn't work (in fact, it's often counter-productive), but people are too afraid of progressive wokesters to tell the truth about it. But the original article does have some URLs to good studies that confirm our ideas.
1 posted on 11/22/2021 1:13:49 PM PST by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

“The way to eliminate racism is to stop talking about it.”
~ Morgan Freedman


2 posted on 11/22/2021 1:14:48 PM PST by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles., )
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To: DeweyCA

“Anti-racism” is dog-whistle for “Kill Whitey.”


3 posted on 11/22/2021 1:15:21 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: DeweyCA

The original article is at: https://www.slowboring.com/p/how-to-be-an-anti-racist


4 posted on 11/22/2021 1:16:23 PM PST by DeweyCA ( )
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To: Fai Mao

Do away with keeping all statistics by race except for medical research purposes. Just think how great America would be if all the money wasted on diversity trainers etc. could be used for customer service, product research, lowering prices, etc.


5 posted on 11/22/2021 1:19:14 PM PST by Freee-dame
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“The way to eliminate racism is to stop talking about it.”

That quote from a 60 Minutes interview was from 2009. I wonder if Morgan Freeman had the same view after 8 years of Obama. If he did, I would be impressed.

I very much enjoyed his appearances on The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (2005-2014).

6 posted on 11/22/2021 1:21:49 PM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021.)
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Matt Yglesias is a Harvard alum. Unlike quite a few graduates of elite universities, he is using his intelligence to see through the scam that is “diversity training”.

Harvard, MIT, Tufts, and many others need to fire their “diversity” administrators. In the case of MIT, that means firing their president (a Venezuelan), who is the one who made “diversity training” mandatory!!!!


7 posted on 11/22/2021 1:23:36 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Intentional method of stirring the pot to promote dissension.

The vast majority of folks are trying to do better these days. From my vantage point, those who insist on training often want an existing “chip on the shoulder” to grow larger and fester.


8 posted on 11/22/2021 1:24:53 PM PST by RatRipper (The Biden Adm is leading an attack against US citizens . . . pure evil.)
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To: DeweyCA

The intent of CRT is to create divisions and rub raw the wounds. It is not a mechanism for healing.


9 posted on 11/22/2021 1:28:35 PM PST by jimfree (My 19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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Its a money maker for the “personnel training” industry !


10 posted on 11/22/2021 1:31:38 PM PST by Reily
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To: DeweyCA

Racism is almost dead. The only people keeping it alive are people with PhDs in useless victim studies that have no other means of income.


11 posted on 11/22/2021 1:41:42 PM PST by struggle
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To: DeweyCA

Racism had been on the downtrend for years until obama stoked things up at the behest of Soros and other commies who want to destroy the USA.

My dad was racist as all get out. Disowned my sister for marrying a black guy in the late 60s. Didn’t talk to her for 15 years. I heard GD N-word many times.

Me; In my late 20s, self employed and hanging off the side of a 16 story building with a black guy who was also self employed. We chose to work with each other. We trusted each other with our lives.

That black guy my sister married wasn’t African American. He was Portuguese American but he was dark. If you’d have heard him on the phone, you’d think he’s just another white guy from Massachusetts. He became a lineman and made good money and was a good provider.

I also worked at a company with 100 employees with 80 of them being Hispanic. Most were good people, some were jerks but that’s the same with people in general. Worked with plenty of white jerks too.


12 posted on 11/22/2021 1:43:01 PM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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What happened to judging a person by the content of their character? Was that guy cancelled?


13 posted on 11/22/2021 1:49:53 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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Most senior execs view this as a form of insurance against lawsuits. If they get a claim from a present or former employee alleging discrimination they can point to the diversity training as an argument the corporation should not be liable.


14 posted on 11/22/2021 1:49:57 PM PST by colorado tanker
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Biden adminstration says ‘we will begin mandatory diversity sessions as soon as our counselors return from training in North Korea.’


15 posted on 11/22/2021 1:54:34 PM PST by Roadrunner383 (;)
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To: Kid Shelleen

What happened to judging a person by the content of their character? Was that guy cancelled?


That is now paraphrased as an example of ‘racist thinking’.


16 posted on 11/22/2021 2:10:18 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: DeweyCA

Diversity training in the workplace is a steaming pile of excrement.

When I do it, I don’t even watch the mandatory videos. I simply let it run in the background with the sound off, and when I take the test, I simply answer as I know they want me to.

100% every time.

I used to get pissed and gnash my teeth, but doing it this way is kind of fun. Makes me realize I have their measure pretty well.


17 posted on 11/22/2021 2:10:18 PM PST by rlmorel (If the Biden Administration was only stupid or incompetent, some actions would benefit the USA.)
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To: Fai Mao

Diversity training in the work place is a warning to whitie, behave or your gonna get sued, lose your job and possibly end up in jail


18 posted on 11/22/2021 2:16:24 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: DeweyCA
the kind of diversity training that has become common in corporations and colleges is probably doing more harm than good.

If the left was TRYING to start a race war, what would they do differently?

19 posted on 11/22/2021 2:17:56 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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20 posted on 11/22/2021 2:26:59 PM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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