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British troops ready to evacuate from Ukraine in event of Russian invasion
https://www.express.co.uk ^ | Sun, Dec 26, 2021 | By MARCO GIANNANGELI - SUNDAY EXPRESS DEFENCE EDITOR

Posted on 12/28/2021 1:13:03 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

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To: montag813

Big wind
and big sun
when winter comes
can’t get it done....


21 posted on 12/28/2021 2:06:56 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: dfwgator

The German Empire was “western civilization”? State socialism sanctioned by the Kaiser?


22 posted on 12/28/2021 2:06:58 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: dfwgator

I remember in engineering school a prof saying if the Germans had the synthetic PAO based 0W10 arctic oil our military uses now, the outcome in Russia might have been different.


23 posted on 12/28/2021 2:09:00 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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People should calm down over this, not worth getting us into a war with a nuclear power.

Consider this; In 1943 the USSR launched their main offensive to start re-conquering the Ukraine. They had 4 MILLION troops, thousands of tanks and planes, 51,000 artillery and mortars!! etc.
Today the 100,000 Russian troops is not a major offensive, it will be a small land grab nothing more.

RINOs and Dems retract your claws.


24 posted on 12/28/2021 2:09:48 PM PST by Phoenix8 (:)
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To: hardspunned

Maybe Afghanistan can loan us some equipment!


25 posted on 12/28/2021 2:11:49 PM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Out of the the valley of death
Ran the one hundred.”

Ouch! Good parody. And the same combatants, as well (British vs. Russian).

The glory faded before it even showed spark.


26 posted on 12/28/2021 2:16:39 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: dfwgator

“WWI destroyed Europe.”

Yup; it utterly destroyed the “old order.”

I have always said that WWI was the greatest disaster in history, because it was such an utterly senseless war.


27 posted on 12/28/2021 2:18:56 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Was it really so long ago when the British were made of steel?

The Charge of the Light Brigade
BY ALFRED, LORD TENNYSON

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
“Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns!” he said.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

“Forward, the Light Brigade!”
Was there a man dismayed?
Not though the soldier knew
Someone had blundered.
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volleyed and thundered;
Stormed at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of hell
Rode the six hundred.

Flashed all their sabres bare,
Flashed as they turned in air
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army, while
All the world wondered.
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right through the line they broke;
Cossack and Russian
Reeled from the sabre stroke
Shattered and sundered.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volleyed and thundered;
Stormed at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell.
They that had fought so well
Came through the jaws of Death,
Back from the mouth of hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!


28 posted on 12/28/2021 2:19:18 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

A little perspective please, a bunch of rag tag, irregular goat rapers with very effective IEDs is not the Russian Army, in their back yard 5,000 miles away.


29 posted on 12/28/2021 2:19:39 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Phoenix8

The Russians aren’t employing that 100,000 men as a single field army. They’re not even using combat brigades. Most recently they strip a battalion from a garrison brigade, take the best men and equipment from that brigade and deploy that.

https://www.benning.army.mil/armor/eARMOR/content/issues/2017/Spring/2Fiore17.pdf#:~:text=The%20Russian%20battalion%20tactical%20group%20%28BTG%29%20is%20a,firepower%2C%20electronic%20warfare%20%28EW%29%20and%20air-defense%20artillery%20%28ADA%29.

They are thin on infantry and this battalion only has about 30 tanks and about 200 infantry dismounts. If they lose as few as 6 tanks, they are combat ineffective according to recent history. They are reliant on local paramilitaries to do most of the fighting.


30 posted on 12/28/2021 2:22:40 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Phoenix8

“People should calm down over this, not worth getting us into a war with a nuclear power.”

The same foolish and shortsighted pacifistic crap was uttered in the 1930’s and how did that work out?

https://kuhistory.ku.edu/articles/pacifist-overtures

No, it’s far better to stop the scumbag Russian thieves on the Dneiper than it is to have to kick them out of Berlin again.


31 posted on 12/28/2021 2:25:31 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: RomanSoldier19

There are large numbers of small boats off the coast at Dunkirk.


32 posted on 12/28/2021 2:28:54 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Tallguy

People seem to think these advisors or Poland or NATO are going to matter a damn if the Russian Army decides move across their back yard 5000 miles away. If Putin moves, the last thing we need are some useless European or American advisors, in the way, becoming trip wire casualties. People should do a little research as to how easily a war can start and how it can escalate into a world war like wildfire. Take a look at the western “leaders”, really buffoons, stumbling around this tinder box. This can go south very quickly if misplayed.


33 posted on 12/28/2021 2:31:08 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Vietnam started with a couple of “advisors”.


34 posted on 12/28/2021 2:31:44 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Germans should have listen to that Trump guy and his crystal ball about Russian gas.


35 posted on 12/28/2021 2:33:10 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: MercyFlush

Not really that comparable. For many reasons, besides the scale involved, nuclear weapons, Geography and historical connections.

Your types always looking for the next war.


36 posted on 12/28/2021 2:37:19 PM PST by Phoenix8 (:)
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To: RomanSoldier19

FreeRepublic is great.

As soon as I saw the headline I thought of that Holy Grail scene...

and bam, there it is.


37 posted on 12/28/2021 2:37:41 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: dfwgator

What’s the British and NATO’s response when a Ukrainian group wanting European intervention takes out half of the advisors with a surface to air missile? Not like that’s never happened before. You see a real lack of historical perspective in many posts.


38 posted on 12/28/2021 2:39:47 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Germans like current Rosneft chief and chairman of the Nord Stream 2 shareholders’ committee (not to mention former chancellor) Gerhardt Schröder, you mean?


39 posted on 12/28/2021 2:40:30 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
Germans like current Rosneft chief and chairman of the Nord Stream 2 shareholders’ committee (not to mention former chancellor) Gerhardt Schröder, you mean?

It's a lot like 1939 again.

40 posted on 12/28/2021 2:41:55 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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