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So Pidor Putin invades Ukraine supposedly to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO and now Finland and Sweden are joining NATO. And now Pidor Putin has American forces digging in 160km from St. Petersburg.

What an idiot!

1 posted on 05/11/2022 9:44:22 AM PDT by MercyFlush
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To: MercyFlush

This isn’t news, NATO has already moved into the Ukraine. That’s what forced Putin’s hand.


2 posted on 05/11/2022 9:46:36 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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The only idiots are the western nations burning money in Ukraine while the Russian ruble is raising and backed by gold


3 posted on 05/11/2022 9:47:36 AM PDT by captain_jonas
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The USA needs to get the he[[ out of NATO immediately. If not sooner.


4 posted on 05/11/2022 9:48:32 AM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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“Russia is watching the situation and will consider a potential response.”

LOL, Russia can’t manage invading a 2nd world pitstop like Ukraine, I really don’t think they want a repeat of the Winter War.


5 posted on 05/11/2022 9:48:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Has there been any attempt at all for negotiation? I thought that’s what Democrats were good at, supposedly.


7 posted on 05/11/2022 9:49:32 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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War will always be the deep state’s first choice.


12 posted on 05/11/2022 9:55:46 AM PDT by PGR88
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Russian analysts consider the military presence on the Russia-Finland border to be a threat...

Yeah, because NATO is known to aggressively invade neighboring countries all the time.

Weird, but the only unrest that actually plaques that continent comes from the communist or muslim nations. Yet, when those same nations accuse NATO of being threatening or aggressive we have tons of folks here join the chorus.

14 posted on 05/11/2022 9:59:42 AM PDT by AnglePark
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Scott Ritter's warning to Finland and Sweden
17 posted on 05/11/2022 10:06:21 AM PDT by ganeemead
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The US government is just begging for a fight. Pushing, prodding, instigating. First walking Ukraine into destruction and now using my homeland as a ‘Human shield’.
Can anyone blame Russia if they preemptively strike the US at the many close proximitity build ups they have staged, or even come at us on the continental United States?
I think we all need to put our heads between our legs, “Duck, and cover!” And kiss our asses goodbye.


18 posted on 05/11/2022 10:07:11 AM PDT by Rainwave ("Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling")
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"This will not strengthen the security of either Finland or NATO itself," Grushko told RIA Novosti."

Translation: "This strengthens the security of Finland and NATO."

26 posted on 05/11/2022 10:12:02 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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A very interesting summer lies ahead.


43 posted on 05/11/2022 10:22:57 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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It astonishes me that so many here on this forum have aligned with the democrats, neocons and RINOs in support of the $hitshow being put on in Ukraine.

Ukraine is a leftist created, failed, money-laundering state that kicks back US taxpayer funds to crooks in our own congress.

Those who are 100% behind Ukraine include WEF, WHO, UN and a long list of loathsome, evil people.

WTF has happened!?

Pray unceasingly


46 posted on 05/11/2022 10:23:42 AM PDT by Bobalu (Some people are psychopaths and the left is their natural home)
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Boris Johnson flew to Sweden and Finland today to sign a security treaty even before they apply for NATO. The US has also talked about doing the same. Looks like NATO entrance is a done deal.


56 posted on 05/11/2022 10:30:47 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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If Russia would stop invading other countries this wouldn’t happen.

Pretty simple.

L


58 posted on 05/11/2022 10:31:23 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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False flag in ….. 3…. 2…


81 posted on 05/11/2022 10:42:59 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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Well our troops have been home for almost six months now. Time to spend another twenty years fighting the Russians for the European socialists.


94 posted on 05/11/2022 10:51:58 AM PDT by McGruff (We are stuck in the demolition phase of Build Back Better)
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To: MercyFlush

Putin’s an idiot, an idiot with the bomb. Treading on very thin ice folks.


103 posted on 05/11/2022 10:58:59 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Basta de Realidades. Queremos Promesas!)
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It took Russia years of being threatening, instead of being friendly, to get Sweden and Finland to this point.

The Russian PR failure is hard to believe, idiotic as it is, but there we are.

And this NATO thing is now a popular idea in both Sweden and Finland, when it used to be unpopular. Russia under Putin managed to do what the Soviet Union couldn’t, on its worst days.

Being as I am a peaceful fellow, I suggest that Russia try its best to head this off with a peace, love and flowers offensive to Finland and Sweden. Go make much of the Swedes. Offer them some sort of prize. Pledge endless appreciation for their peaceable Swedishness. The Swedes in particular really like that kind of thing. Give Sweden some sort of gift. Send a horde of pretty girls to do the “negotiating”.

As for the Finns, do a big transborder Finnish culture and language unity thing. Apologize for invading in 1939. Give back some token bits of land as under “mutual sovereignty” or something. Shared mineral rights in the Baltic or whatever. Declare the Estonians (Finnish cousins) perpetually untouchable by Russia. Give them economic concessions, gratis et amore. And all this without a hint of of a threat.

But a major part of the Russian psychological problem is a complete inability to do this kind of love offensive. Is there any love in “official” Russia?


112 posted on 05/11/2022 11:16:53 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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This failure goes back decades.
Russia had a chance, when Putin came in.
It finally had the investment capital and “strong leadership” to turn itself into the sort of country people would want to move TO. A dynamic free-enterprise high tech economy was within reach.

It could even have become attractive as a place anti-woke people, say, could have seen as a refuge. Christian communities, German homeschoolers, Rhodesian and South African farmers, etc. Maybe more of the disaffected from Euro-American culture.

But no.


115 posted on 05/11/2022 11:25:12 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Since WWII, CCCP/CIS, NATO, and EU non-NATO military posture in Northern Europe has remained intact and dynamic.

Regardless of NATO membership and activity, Finland, and Norway (and Sweden to a lesser extent, but still active) have manned bases and defensive installation posture religiously, and have multiple rapid defensive/Eastern invasion training exercises. Not all, but these will include NATO elements every year.

This is not new at all.

Russia and its subordinate CIS also perform annual exercises, AND THEY DO IT EVERY YEAR, where they marshal/stage and rehearse Western offensives.

There have even been numerous “Finnish” and joint Norwegian/Finnish” exercises roughly timed with annual Russian/CIS exercises along the Finnish and Norwegian borders.

While not NATO, Finland has all along been part of annual drills, and joint Scandinavian/NATO drills and exercises.

These have significantly ramped up since 2003-2004 when the CIS under Putin began increasing the presence of more advanced units, and significantly upgrading and rearming Kaliningrad (including with nukes, and known chem storage and units).

In part due to Nordstream and Nordstream 2, for over a decade Sweden has been significantly increasing its naval and air force budgets, as Russia has essentially pulled a “China”, and has used its Nordstream energy lines as an excuse to place permanent naval assets along its route. The issue is when these assets travel wildly inside the 12nm territorial boundary lines of Finland, Sweden, and pretty much everyone in the AOR. Russian Air Force has and will fly regularly over land and cities of its neighbors.

While I am truly not a fan of NATO, for anyone to hang onto this NATO provocation narrative really does reflect lack of real historical long standing reference, or just carelessness to the region.

While at it, FSB, GRU, and related uniformed and non-uniformed activity has arguably remained at the strongest levels ever known (including the last century) in Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Panama, and the rest of “Latin America,” since approximately 2010. Some argue since roughly 2002-2003.

Not even getting into the ME, AF, or East Asia.

There is a whole lot more going on than is published, broadcast, or circulated.


117 posted on 05/11/2022 11:29:25 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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