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The quest for longer-lasting Covid-19 vaccines
CNN via MSN ^ | May 20, 2022 | Brenda Goodman

Posted on 05/21/2022 5:40:08 AM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: Svartalfiar

Funny how popular Biden, Pelosi and Kamala’s old material is around here.

When Trump rolled out Operation Warp Speed with the goal of producing vaccines within one year those three specialized in fear mongering the idea.


61 posted on 05/24/2022 11:42:37 PM PDT by Pelham (World War III is entering on cat's feet.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Svartalfiar wrote: “Assuming even one life was actually saved by the shots, it’ll still be years before we get the total numbers of people injured and killed by them!”

We already know that the virus has killed over a million Americans, maybe six million world wide. It is estimated that the vaccine has saved over a million lives and 10 million hospitalizations.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2021/dec/us-covid-19-vaccination-program-one-year-how-many-deaths-and


62 posted on 05/25/2022 6:57:08 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Svartalfiar wrote: “Big Pharma makes billions of dollars. Pfizer’s profit last year was about $22B, that’s AFTER all your claimed expanses. Way more than Malone’s Measly $6MM, which is ONE PERSON’s supposed income, and to get that into a per-capita, divide than by at least 10-20MM of us “anti-vaxxers”. How does that compare to several billion dollars?”

I see you agree that Malone is using this pandemic to profit. At least Pfizer is providing a useful product. BTW, not all that Pfizer profit stems from the covid vaccine.


63 posted on 05/25/2022 7:01:57 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Pelham

Thanks for the info. I had covid 15 days ago, got over it, then days ago
was sick as a dog again. I think thougn there is a flu going around too, though the symptoms were similar. Last night I seem to have sweated it out, but am drained today of energy. I doubt it was covid again.

70% after a year is pretty good protection still. Especially for a virus znd the variants that are so survivable.


64 posted on 05/25/2022 8:07:28 AM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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To: Svartalfiar; DugwayDuke

Robert Malone knows how to get work published at PubMed, Nature, or other serious sites where it would garner attention and get peer reviewed.

Of course he’s not doing that now. He’s writing at Substack for an entirely different audience rather than his peers.


65 posted on 05/25/2022 11:10:04 AM PDT by Pelham (World War III is entering on cat's feet.)
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To: Pelham

Pelham wrote: “Robert Malone knows how to get work published at PubMed, Nature, or other serious sites where it would garner attention and get peer reviewed.”

But that would expose him to professional criticism and he would be forced to defend his work in a professional arena.

Pelham wrote: “Of course he’s not doing that now. He’s writing at Substack for an entirely different audience rather than his peers.”

He’s also writing his newsletter which costs $60 for a monthly subscription. With over 134,000 subscribers, that’s over $8Million annually. Rather doubt he could make that kind of cash publishing in a peer reviewed medium.


66 posted on 05/25/2022 3:07:39 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Pelham
Funny how popular Biden, Pelosi and Kamala’s old material is around here.

When Trump rolled out Operation Warp Speed with the goal of producing vaccines within one year those three specialized in fear mongering the idea.


And yet, plenty of people didn't trust the "vaccines" under Trump either. (Not to even get into the Constitutionality of the spending.) Hell, there's plenty of people (half the population) that don't manage to get the flu shot every year, even though it's basically free as well. This isn't old material, it's current and relevant.

One could say, funny how popular Biden, Pelosi and Kamala’s CURRENT material is around here.
67 posted on 05/26/2022 11:05:28 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: DugwayDuke
We already know that the virus has killed over a million Americans, maybe six million world wide. It is estimated that the vaccine has saved over a million lives and 10 million hospitalizations.

Well I'm slightly confused here. Does this one million number still include the guy who died (from ChinaVirus!) in a motorcycle wreck? The shooting-CoViD deaths in Colorado? Etc etc? How do you know anyone was saved by the "vaccine" when you don't even have a legitimate trial study to point to? Who knows how many more people might have lived without the shot? Who knows how many people still will die because the shots are, as Pfizer even admits, going into negative efficiency several months post-injection?
68 posted on 05/26/2022 11:38:19 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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I see you agree that Malone is using this pandemic to profit. At least Pfizer is providing a useful product. BTW, not all that Pfizer profit stems from the covid vaccine.

I didn't say that, but I wouldn't doubt it. How much more did he charge for his newsletter now, vs before the panic? Pfizer has some useful products, sure, but their top one certainly isn't, unless you're a shareholder.

And sure, that's total profit, but their "vaccine" is approximately 1/2 - 3/5 of that total. So even if you cut it down, $10B+ is still orders of magnitude bigger than a couple million.
69 posted on 05/26/2022 11:44:48 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

Svartalfiar wrote: “I didn’t say that, but I wouldn’t doubt it. How much more did he charge for his newsletter now, vs before the panic? Pfizer has some useful products, sure, but their top one certainly isn’t, unless you’re a shareholder.”

Interesting. You believe Pfizer is motivated by profit to lie about distributing harmful vaccines but don’t believe that Malone could also be motivated by profit to lie about the vaccines?

You’re making a strawman argument. It doesn’t matter if Pfizer’s net revenues are significantly larger than the revenue from Malone’s newsletter. Of course they are. The real point is that you should consider if Malone takes the positions he does in order to increase his profit.


70 posted on 05/27/2022 5:16:38 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Svartalfiar

vartalfiar wrote: “Well I’m slightly confused here. Does this one million number still include the guy who died (from ChinaVirus!) in a motorcycle wreck?”

Of course you’re confused. You’re relying upon hyperbolic anti-vaxxer claims. Raising the motorcycle claim is just the kind of red herring the anti-vaxxers like to use to confuse you.


71 posted on 05/27/2022 5:19:01 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

By now, even most of the truly dumbest sheeple have figured out that they are in more danger from the fake vaxes than they were from covid. After the fake vaxes you get covid over and over or you die from other lethal side effects like blood clots and cancers.

That is why the shyster drug companies are having to destroy millions of doses of this bullshit. Nobody wants any more of it.

Many people are awaiting the day that people like Fauci, Bourla and others have to face justice for their crimes.


72 posted on 05/27/2022 5:52:03 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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The pandemic is over, if there ever was one at the start, yet they are still manufacturing this fake concoction using EUA, even though there is no emergency, in order to still get immunity from liability.

Who will call them out?


73 posted on 05/27/2022 5:55:57 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: DugwayDuke

biden proved the kung flu is a scam when he waltzed into the white house, disbanded trump’s “operation warp speed”, opened our southern border, and continues to covertly spread over 2,000,000 (2 million) nondocumented unvaccinated invaders across our country during a supposed “global pandemic” while anthony fauci, the cdc, the nih, the world health organization, the enemedia, hollywierd, and the majority of our elected representatives sit back and watch...

trust our government to protect you and your health at your own peril...


74 posted on 05/27/2022 6:03:26 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Svartalfiar

Trump has never wavered in recommending the vaccines.


75 posted on 05/27/2022 7:06:05 AM PDT by Pelham (World War III is entering on cat's feet.)
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To: dforest

dforest wrote: “By now, even most of the truly dumbest sheeple have figured out that they are in more danger from the fake vaxes than they were from covid. After the fake vaxes you get covid over and over or you die from other lethal side effects like blood clots and cancers.”

Only the dumbest of the anti-vaxxer cult believe those things. FYI, ‘natural immunity’ doesn’t protect you from multiple covid infections. The covid virus has lethal side effects.

dforest wrote: “That is why the shyster drug companies are having to destroy millions of doses of this bullshit. Nobody wants any more of it.”

Only in your imagination.

dforest wrote: “Many people are awaiting the day that people like Fauci, Bourla and others have to face justice for their crimes.”

Only in your imagination.


76 posted on 05/27/2022 9:25:39 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: heavy metal

heavy metal wrote: “trust our government to protect you and your health at your own peril...”

Trusting the leaders of the anti-vaxx conspiracy cult will only expose you to the virus while you waste your money on snake oil cures/prevention like ivermectin, HCQ, etc.


77 posted on 05/27/2022 9:27:43 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

our government’s actions and double standards prove the kung flu is a scam...


78 posted on 05/27/2022 9:59:46 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: heavy metal

heavy metal wrote: “our government’s actions and double standards prove the kung flu is a scam...”

The only thing that proves is that the Biden administration is incompetent.


79 posted on 05/27/2022 10:44:27 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

why do you continue to push drugs for the incompetent biden administration?...


80 posted on 05/27/2022 11:02:08 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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