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IS IT IMMORAL TO DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE?
Powerline ^ | June 9,2022 | BY JOHN HINDERAKER

Posted on 06/11/2022 11:30:04 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Alvin Diogenes

“I’m afraid you’re right. But why has France been able to commit to nuclear power at the same that the Greens have paralyzed Germany?”

Germany cannot even keep open their last 3 nukes (out of what was 18 nukes) because of their Greens. Now they’re paying close to 50 cents a kwh, more than 3 times the US national average (and 4 times the Texas average).


41 posted on 06/11/2022 12:46:18 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: Hojczyk
So, with an inventory of just thirty-five the haul trucks alone are using 17.5 million gallons of fuel a year for just one lithium site

What with the rising cost and spotty availability of diesel fuel, this will spike the price of batteries big time. It may make them far less available, too.

It's almost as if the PTB are trying to drastically limit our transportation options.

42 posted on 06/11/2022 12:49:42 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Alvin Diogenes

“But why has France been able to commit to nuclear power”

I haven’t checked, but I suspect that France (and for that matter, Sweden) got in under the wire, before the Globalists decided to delete nuclear power. More recently, France has been slowly moving to wean themselves off of nuclear, and replace it unicorn farts, I believe.


43 posted on 06/11/2022 12:51:11 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: ifinnegan

It takes energy to produce hydrogen, unless you have a source of magic hydrogen.

Do you?


44 posted on 06/11/2022 12:51:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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To: Disambiguator

“What with the rising cost and spotty availability of diesel fuel, this will spike the price of batteries big time.”

I watch the price of Lithium AA and AAA batteries at Sam’s. At the beginning of the year (and for several years prior), they were $1.11 each (in large packages, of course), then 2 in April they went up to $1.33, and just now at $1.54. I suspect it’s the price of the Lithium as that increase far exceeds inflation.

This ‘transition’ will not be pretty.


45 posted on 06/11/2022 12:55:11 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: BobL

Yes, Germany is a disaster. I was just wondering how France avoided falling into the same trap.


46 posted on 06/11/2022 12:56:48 PM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: BobL

I think you’re right that France benefited by getting into nuclear power early.

Hopefully they won’t pick leaders so dumb as to throw away their energy independence. But, as know from Biden, that can happen.


47 posted on 06/11/2022 12:59:18 PM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: Alvin Diogenes

The one good thing about France, and what may be their saving grace, is that they really don’t give a flip about what other countries think about them.


48 posted on 06/11/2022 1:01:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“It takes energy to produce hydrogen, unless you have a source of magic hydrogen.”

It takes energy to do anything.

The question is cost efficiency and bet etc...

You’re response is quite incomplete. I’m looking for informed criticism.

“Do you?”

Maybe. Not magic, though.


49 posted on 06/11/2022 1:02:56 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Hojczyk

Is IT IMMORAL TO DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE?

I don’t think its immoral.I think its stupid when the electrical grid can barely support the present load on it with the shortage of Natural Gas and bunker oil to run the generators.

The drive to drive electric vehicles is being forced on us by the same idiots that hate Nuclear Energy. The only truly clean energy source we have.


50 posted on 06/11/2022 1:04:41 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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The one good thing about France, and what may be their saving grace, is that they really don’t give a flip about what other countries think about them.

Agreed. The biggest problem they have, though, is the growth of the Muslim immigrant population. These people are going to redefine what "French" means.
51 posted on 06/11/2022 1:07:45 PM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: Hojczyk

IS IT IMMORAL TO USE ALL CAPS?


52 posted on 06/11/2022 1:09:12 PM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: Hojczyk

It’s immoral to forcibly confiscate my hard earned dollars to subsidize EV’s that I cannot afford and really do not want. By the way, I am looking for a new vehicle, err used vehicle. I am thinking something pre-mid-70’s so it doesn’t contain all that computer crap in it. America doesn’t make those chips and I have no trust whatsoever in our government to insure those chips will be made in America or the supply from Taiwan, Japan, and Korea will continue to exist in the future.


53 posted on 06/11/2022 1:19:07 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: alternatives?

“ How many batteries does a Tesla need?”

Depends on how long you keep it and if you can afford $20K to replace it 🤪


54 posted on 06/11/2022 1:24:28 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: MtnClimber

It is immoral if for no other reason than it’s a cave to these filthy green bastards.


55 posted on 06/11/2022 1:27:03 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Hojczyk
Today, a typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminium, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.

It should concern you that all those toxic components come from mining. For instance, to manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth’s crust for just one battery.

All of that to make a battery which is nothing more than an energy storage device. You still need to make the energy that will be stored in those batteries.

BTW, the energy storage device on a ICE vehicle is a simple gas tank.

56 posted on 06/11/2022 1:28:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
The electrical energy necessary to power them will never be produced…for the same “climate change” reasons they are destroying gas-powered vehicles. And the production of electricity is firmly regulated and controlled by the same totalitarian government that is now destroying us. There will never be enough electricity for personal vehicle transportation. That is easy for the fascists to ensure.

Yup, this.

57 posted on 06/11/2022 1:32:56 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: ifinnegan

Do you have a degree in chemistry or engineering?

Or do you just routinely engage in mental masturbation because it’s the only thing you’re good at


58 posted on 06/11/2022 1:41:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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This fails to take into consideration the plight of the poor poley bears
59 posted on 06/11/2022 1:46:51 PM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: TexasGator

EV ping!


60 posted on 06/11/2022 1:48:25 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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