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Panic in the Donbas: Can Russia annex Donetsk, Luhansk before Ukraine takes it back?
Hot Air ^ | September 20, 2022 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 09/20/2022 11:40:35 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

The Russians find themselves out of options in their collapsing effort to overrun Ukraine. Not only did they fail to keep territory they seized in the invasion over the late winter and spring, Russia has begun to lose ground it held before the war. They’re running out of resources, and more importantly, running out of troops as Ukraine’s counteroffensive threatens to collapse their lines.

What better time than now to hold a plebiscite, eh? Unfortunately, Russia may see that as their only recruitment option in Luhansk and Donetsk:

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Er … keep dreaming. Vladimir Putin has no concerns over even the veneer of legitimacy for such a plebiscite, but that’s not the problem. The problem is even conducting a referendum for the bare necessity of such an annexation while Ukraine keeps liberating the territories Russia wants to annex. The time to do this was about four weeks ago, before Ukraine’s counteroffensive collapsed the Russian lines and sent their forces on the run. How do you hold an election over several days, as is suggested in this proposal, while Ukrainian troops keep marching across the precincts?

Here’s an even better question. Russia might have gotten the results they wanted from a plebiscite a couple of months ago through sheer intimidation, as well as killing their opponents to annexation in the Donbas. Who in their right mind would vote for Russia now, though? Six months ago, it looked as though Russia would win the war and rule with an iron fist. Now it looks like the Ukrainians are about to push Russians back into Russia and/or the Sea of Azov and firmly re-establish Ukrainian sovereignty in the Donbas. Anyone who votes for Russia at this point is setting themselves up for a trial for collaborating.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 3daywar; asplanned; badair; botchedinvasion; edmorrissey; edtheclown; enjoythesanctions; europe; globalistpropaganda; hotgas; morrisseyisaclown; morrisseytheclown; nato; nazis; norsebadenov; putinstartedit; snekbot; tacticalgenius; thesnekbot; tothelastman; ukraine; war
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Last desperate gambit of a failing Russian invasion and occupation...
1 posted on 09/20/2022 11:40:35 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Ain’t no panic in the Donbas.
However, there is panic in Kyiv........


2 posted on 09/20/2022 11:41:11 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler

Contrary to the misbegotten beliefs of the Putin adoration gaggle, this will not end well for Russia or Putin.


3 posted on 09/20/2022 11:44:18 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: ScottinVA

Oh wise one, enlighten us?


4 posted on 09/20/2022 11:44:59 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler
...their collapsing effort to overrun Ukraine.

Lost me right there.
5 posted on 09/20/2022 11:48:52 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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what happened to the speech at 8 moscow time? it is 9:50 now


6 posted on 09/20/2022 11:50:13 AM PDT by VAFreedom (Wuhan Pneumonia-Made by CCP, Copyright Xi Jingping)
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To: cranked

I did not address that to you, Pootlet. Begone.


7 posted on 09/20/2022 11:50:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Donetsk, don’t tell..................


8 posted on 09/20/2022 11:51:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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You are addressing me know, oh wise one, please go ahead and further explain why Putin and Russia will pay the price.

I mean gee, not like ‘land grabs’ are an old US and UK specialty........


9 posted on 09/20/2022 11:52:55 AM PDT by cranked
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To: VAFreedom

what happened to the speech at 8 moscow time? it is 9:50 now


Somebody must have told Putin that Russia doesn’t even control large areas of Ukraine that it is planning on stealing. Including a city of 750,000. The whole Putinist “referendum” thing is turning into a hilarious Monty Python skit for the ages.


10 posted on 09/20/2022 11:54:13 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: cranked

Attempting interactions with you and your ilk is pointless. Move along.


11 posted on 09/20/2022 11:54:33 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: ScottinVA

lulz.

Feelings are mutual.


12 posted on 09/20/2022 11:57:59 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler

Now that every person who didn’t like Russia has fled the
invasion, Poopin now wants to hold a plebiscite.

That sounds reasoned? /s


13 posted on 09/20/2022 11:58:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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Are globalists really thinking that they are going to win over Putin by media insinuations and internet trolling?


14 posted on 09/20/2022 11:59:38 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: DoughtyOne
I suspect the ballot will look a lot like this one...


15 posted on 09/20/2022 12:00:19 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NorseViking

blaming your imaginary “globalists” again

they didn’t start this war, Putin did

and now he needs to escalate it because he’s losing

give it up Russian losers


16 posted on 09/20/2022 12:02:41 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Timber Rattler

They should have just annexed the whole of Ukraine. Then they wouldn’t have had to go to war.


17 posted on 09/20/2022 12:04:44 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Timber Rattler

Bkmk


18 posted on 09/20/2022 12:05:01 PM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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They territory’s involved are already doing the referendums them selves. The wester media is so full of carp.


19 posted on 09/20/2022 12:06:28 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (raise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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To: ScottinVA
... misbegotten beliefs of the Putin adoration gaggle ....

Yeah, what's up with that? I thought this was Free Republic, not Volkischer Beobachter.

20 posted on 09/20/2022 12:06:31 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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