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To: Chgogal
There are more than a million reservists in the Russian military. Ukraine has them as well, but they were already called into duty a while ago. Ukraine has suffered far greater losses, personnel wise, than has Russia.

Russia has the ability to produce its own weapons and ammo. Ukraine has to get them from others, namely the U.S. & NATO, and a little, very little, from the EU. Problem there is both NATO & the U.S. military are now running low and are actually supplying the Ukraine military with weapons our military is using. Whoa, so we are becoming defenseless because of this conflict. Another issue, is we rely heavily upon Russia and China for our ammo. Not only a strategic blunder, but bordering on treasonous as well.

Beginning to sound like a win win for Russia, from where I sit.

Your problem is that your heart is in the right place, but you have left your brain out of thinking this conflict through, and what the real ramifications are for our country.

I am not rooting for a Russia win here, I am looking for a way out regarding our involvement in this conflict. Ukraine is not winning this thing. I'll bet if the Ukrainian people could vote on Zelenskyy they would vote him out by a landslide.

Let me ask you, why is this war even happening? Let's see if you actually know the why here.

20 posted on 09/27/2022 5:45:53 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

“Russia has the ability to produce its own weapons and ammo. Ukraine has to get them from others, namely the U.S. & NATO, and a little, very little, from the EU. Problem there is both NATO & the U.S. military are now running low”

If that is so and we know that Russian manufacturing is hindered by sanctions, corruption, and inefficiency, or none of that at all if you choose, then why can’t Western countries and any other countries that make ammo, keep up with the Ukrainian needs?

So Russia can make its own ammo, while the United States and the rest of the world can make Ukraine’s.


24 posted on 09/27/2022 6:22:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Robert DeLong

How do you know what the casualty rate is?
This is a state secret on both sides.

The bulk of the weapons Ukraine is receiving are from the EU, notably from Eastern Europe. This includes btw, the bulk of the ammo its using, as Poland, Romania and Bulgaria have fired up their factories to supply 152mm, Grad rockets and other legacy ammo. The bulk of the artillery in Uke service is still the ex-Soviet stuff. It was running short of ammo for them for a while there but it seems the EU shipments have been catching up. And of course most of the tanks and AFVs its received are also Eastern Euro stocks, mainly from Poland.

Now, in monetary value the US trumps everyone but thats because US equipment is expensive. The US is also subsidizing Polish and other arms supplies. In actual numbers of common frontline equipment the US has supplied relatively little.

The stuff the US and the Euros are supplying arent running low. There are large US stocks of HIMARS rockets and 155mm. And at least 400 HIMARS systems and at least 1000 MLRS (the tracked version). Ukraine has received only 25-30 of these.

Etc and etc. Look into each type, compare “open source” of what the Euros have/had, and whats been delivered, and whatever details of whats leaked into the press, notably in Europe (better than the US MSM). Do not accept anyones opinion, be your own intelligence analyst.


27 posted on 09/27/2022 7:04:24 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Robert DeLong
Why did Russia take Georgia? Why did Russia take Crimea? Why shouldn't Russia take Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia? Why do Sweden and Finland want to enter NATO suddenly?

Blowing up pipelines is NOT in the US’ interest. The only thing that action would do is make more money for Russia due to increased oil and nat gas prices.

I don't care who wins what. I do care about an idiot nuclear power invading countries whenever it feels like. One day they invade a country that bites back. That is what happened.

29 posted on 09/27/2022 7:38:29 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Robert DeLong

25 million, not a million.
The partial mobilization only tapped into roughly 1%.


30 posted on 09/27/2022 11:03:56 PM PDT by cranked
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