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Russia launches first-ever kamikaze drone attack on Kyiv, kills 3 (UPDATED)
https://kyivindependent.com ^ | October 17, 2022 9:27 am | Asami Terajima

Posted on 10/17/2022 4:38:03 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: 2banana

What a pathetic headline. There is no such thing as a kamikaze drone. The drone has the same volition as an iron bomb.


41 posted on 10/17/2022 9:19:05 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Congfwdude)
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To: srmanuel

The people being forcibly conscripted barely know which end of a gun the bullet comes out of, let alone replace regular troops .


42 posted on 10/17/2022 9:27:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Monterrosa-24

“Neocons??!!! Russia invaded Ukraine”

Life is SO SIMPLE four people who think at a kindergarten level.


43 posted on 10/17/2022 9:28:10 AM PDT by BobL
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To: PIF

They would potentially replace troops in areas of the East and other where it’s highly unlikely any military activity would happen and those troops of the regular army would be sent to Ukraine.


44 posted on 10/17/2022 9:33:25 AM PDT by srmanuel (C)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Alex Christoforou reports on kamikaze drone strikes on major Ukrainian cities. Ukraine's air defense remains non-existent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ryrNQibEGo

45 posted on 10/17/2022 10:15:48 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: BobL

“...Life is SO SIMPLE four people who think at a kindergarten level...”

And it is so simple for people who do not know the difference between four and for.

And it gets very complicated when one tries to justify a criminal invasion using a variety of idiotic Moscow talking points. The crimes Russia has committed in the Donbas have not yet come to full light. But from my family and friends there I know they are horrific.


46 posted on 10/17/2022 12:40:55 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: BobL; All

“The Neocons wanted a real war”

Two important points:

1. I know of no one that has asked to be ‘labeled’ neocon.
That ‘name assignment or label’ was done as a form of “name calling” to belittle Freepers with a differing point of view.

2. I believe it is VERY harsh to accuse ANYONE pro-or-con Ukraine as well as Pro-or-Con Putin.

Many Freepers do not ASSIGN any ‘blame’ to the people of Russia. The Russian population has unwittingly become enslaved by their government. Do you realize this “Special Military Operation’ invasion by Putin could actually bring ‘freedom’ to the Russian people?


47 posted on 10/17/2022 1:53:45 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: delta7

“Vlad spends pennies”

1. Internationale currency is relative. he
2. Putin has enslaved the Russian population.

If it wasn’t for the ‘underground economy ‘ black-market the Russian population would starve.


48 posted on 10/17/2022 2:04:30 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: srmanuel

“Word of warning, you never know what poster you are responding to, rumors are going around of posters using multiple identities”

1- I understand that concern. I myself was curious and sent a message to some Freepers that frequent the Russian-Ukraine topic.

2- Not that I would know. I certainly am not an expert. But, from the thoughtful messages & posts I received I have not discerned any multi-identity Freepers.


49 posted on 10/17/2022 2:10:12 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: jacknhoo

“US/NATO will obey their globalist masters”

As Pilate asked, “What is truth?”
I would beware of total commitment to any conspiracy theory.

There is some relevancy regarding money made during war-times, i.e. Howard Hughes during WWII.

Just as “elites” are able to manipulate events to their own personal gain, i.e. Pelosi.

Mors Vincit Omnia, is their motto - Death Conquers All.


50 posted on 10/17/2022 2:17:53 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: blitz128

“This is all about Putin “

I totally agree.

Putin invaded with his long-planned “Special Military Operation.”

This is Putin’s pattern of “Transnistrian” policy as he has also controls ‘zones’ of frozen conflicts in Moldova (Transnistria region), Georgia (Abkhazia and South Ossetia), and now with in Ukraine annexed Crimean peninsula and the Donbas.

Putin uses this wider pattern of “created” separatist conflicts to create corruption and criminality as ‘Trojan horses’ to block progress in reform-minded periphery countries. This is the Putin tactical part of his geopolitical strategy that creats conflict zones to prevent countries from entering NATO and integrating into the European Union. CONFLICTS in these by Putin ispart of his ‘imperialistic plan’ to regain strategic points of the LOST EMPIRE.

This means Putin must fully separate occupied parts of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts from Ukraine and recognize them as Donbas puppet republics just like Georgia’s Abkhazia and South Ossetia.


51 posted on 10/17/2022 2:21:50 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

2. Putin has enslaved the Russian population.
——-
I never saw a hint of that when I was working there. Putin had huge support, popularity, and even now enjoys a 85 percent plus approval rating. Much like Trump, strong, takes care of his citizens first, and does what he says he will.

Visit Russia, then get back with us.


52 posted on 10/17/2022 2:23:42 PM PDT by delta7
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To: House Atreides

“hiding less effective”

Reminds me of the suffering of our early American patriots during the American Revolution.

CURRENTLY- In Kiev, Ukraine, the temperature currently ranged in high mid 50°F to low mid 30°F

The sun in Kiev is rarely seen from Nov to Feb
In Dnipro, the average temperature of the coldest month January is 25.7 °F


53 posted on 10/17/2022 2:39:18 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: jacknhoo

“propaganda was that no nations”

I believe it was always assumed that ‘dictator’ regimes would align with Putin.

The UN General Assembly voted a sweeping condemnation of Russia’s attempt to annex four territories in Ukraine as a display of world-wide disapproval.

The UN General Assembly demanded that Russia reverse the land grab: 35 countries abstained from voting. ONLY five countries voted against the resolution: Russia, North Korea, Belarus, Syria, and Nicaragua.


54 posted on 10/17/2022 2:46:31 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

You’re going to have the deaths of millions caused needlessly by your own and the entities you promote refusal to seek peace rather than WWIII. Oh, you’re so righteous, demanding the death of millions for your virtue signaling.

That’s not virtuous.

Peace was nearly achieved, but demonic forces thwarted it.

“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” (Matthew 5:9, NIV).

Get behind me Satan.


55 posted on 10/17/2022 3:31:36 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

“I know of no one that has asked to be ‘labeled’ neocon.”

There are quite a few terms I’ve been called that are FAR MORE colorful than ‘Neocon’, both regarding the Ukraine War and my support of Trump over Cruz early in the 2016 Primary season.

As to the term Neocon, if the shoe fits... The term Neocon is in Wikipedia, along with A PICTURE of the Queen of Neocons, Victoria Neuland, the person who DIRECTLY CAUSED this war, by overthrowing the Ukrainian government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#/media/File:Defense.gov_News_Photo_051024-F-5586B-016.jpg

“2. I believe it is VERY harsh to accuse ANYONE pro-or-con Ukraine as well as Pro-or-Con Putin.”

I think there are PLENTY of pro-Ukrainian people here, and they are proud of it. Calling someone pro-Putin is a bit dicier - as there are PLENTY of Putin-haters here that simply don’t think it’s worth starting WW3 over Ukraine - yet they all get lumped together by the Neocon supporters here.

“Many Freepers do not ASSIGN any ‘blame’ to the people of Russia. “

There are a number of people who certainly revel in the deaths of Russians, any Russians. They seem to view Russians no differently that Nazis viewed Jews nearly 100 years ago. If you don’t mind, I can send private notes pointing them out as they celebrate the deaths of Russians. You’re welcome to do the same regarding people celebrating the deaths of Ukrainians, if you manage to find any here.

“The Russian population has unwittingly become enslaved by their government. Do you realize this ‘Special Military Operation’ invasion by Putin could actually bring ‘freedom’ to the Russian people?”

I would agree regarding the Chinese, but I don’t see Russians being treated by their government any worse than conservatives are treated by the Biden Administration (with Bannon being sent up the river being the latest, not to mention DC Central or parents complaining at school board meetings). Overall, I’d say that Putin’s level of support in Russia far outstrips Biden, so just who is ‘enslaved’?


56 posted on 10/17/2022 4:08:15 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 38 degrees)
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To: All; srmanuel

“nations economies supplying military & humanitarian aid for Ukraine” have had their their financial burden increased.

However, the world now realizes this:

First, Russia came for Transnistria, Moldova in 1990 and we did not speak out—because I was not a Moldavian.

Then, Russia came for Georgia in 2008, and we did not speak out—because I was not a Georgian.

Then, Russia came for the Crimean peninsula and the Donbas of Ukraine, and we ARE NOW SPEAKING OUT—because RUSSIA MUST STOP INVASIONS of sovereign nations!

If not stopped then, Russia will come for non-NATO & Ex- Soviet States: Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan BelarusCyprus, Estonia Finland, Ireland, Kazakhstan. Kyrgyzstan Latvia Lithuania, Malta, Sweden, Switzerland, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan.

—And in April, 2022, Russian Brigadier General Rustam Minnekayev directed by Putin said: ”Russia was now at war with the whole world, as it [was] in the Great Patriotic War.”

There is no one no ally left in Europe to speak for the U.S.A.: And, now to counter Russian aggression has become
far too expensive for the U.S. to defeat this renewed Russian Superpower.


57 posted on 10/17/2022 5:30:34 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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58 posted on 10/17/2022 5:33:22 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: delta7

“Visit Russia, then get back with us.”

Polls are false.

Get out of Moscow & develop relationships so Russians feel safe to share with you


59 posted on 10/17/2022 6:01:45 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Do these morons realize that what goes up must come back down somewhere?

60 posted on 10/17/2022 6:04:14 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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