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Lawmakers look to pass massive Ukraine aid package before a new, redder Congress meets in January
NBC ^ | 10/20/22 | Dan De Luce and Julie Tsirkin

Posted on 10/20/2022 12:53:30 PM PDT by JonPreston

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“Ukraine Badly Defeated in Kherson, Russia Advances Kharkov; Putin Mobilizes Russian Economy for War”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTgj6afnMEc


21 posted on 10/20/2022 2:12:26 PM PDT by cranked
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To: FlingWingFlyer
#8: "I wonder how much of this the Biden Crime Family gets back."

It's blackmail. Zelensky won't release the Biden Crime Family files as long as the payments keep coming.

I must say, Putin is remarkably patient. Imagine if the USA were having a border war with Mexico, and Putin kept sending money, arms, and weapons to Mexico.

22 posted on 10/20/2022 2:16:36 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: cranked

Thanks. Alexander and the Duran are great. I’ll watch this tonight.


23 posted on 10/20/2022 2:22:58 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Not too thrilled by the site (never have been, but when looking at ALL sources...yeah), but it pretty much is suggesting same.

“OVERVIEW OF MILITARY SITUATION IN KHERSON ON OCTOBER 20: UKRAINIAN OFFENSIVE KEEPS BLOODY STALLING”
https://southfront.org/overview-of-military-situation-in-kherson-on-october-20-ukrainian-offensive-keeps-bloody-stalling-video/

Graphic warning though.......


24 posted on 10/20/2022 2:25:47 PM PDT by cranked
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To: JonPreston

Oh for crying out loud!!! Close the dang spigot!


25 posted on 10/20/2022 2:47:18 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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GIBS-ME-DAT massive Ukraine aid package!


26 posted on 10/20/2022 2:49:00 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: cranked
I have to say that do people really care who is pumping oil into their country as long as they keep from freezing! I don't think so.

All this clap trapping about who we get oil from is ridiculous. People just don't care but politicians sure don't care how many people they hurt politicizing utilities.

27 posted on 10/20/2022 2:51:16 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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Pretty much agree, caww.

And I think the growing protest across Europe are pretty much indicating the same. Going to get dicey come early part of next year.


28 posted on 10/20/2022 2:53:48 PM PDT by cranked
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Russian invasion has cost Ukraine almost $1 trillion, says Kyiv official
Published September 22, 2022 05:59 PM

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has caused almost $1 trillion of damage, a Kyiv government official said Thursday, as the war batters the country’s economy.

In terms of “direct and indirect costs” Ukraine had suffered “somewhere close to $1 trillion” in damages, said Oleg Ustenko, economic advisor to President Volodymyr Zelensky.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/world/845718/russian-invasion-has-cost-ukraine-almost-1-trillion-says-kyiv-official/story/?amp


29 posted on 10/20/2022 2:54:40 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Did Zelensky think by refusing to negotiate it wasn’t going to cost somebody more than a heavty price - of course he knew - and welcomed the revenue spigots opening up - Yet Again! Just like they always do time and again.


30 posted on 10/20/2022 3:18:06 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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These two knew it would be flowing...


31 posted on 10/20/2022 3:20:52 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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32 posted on 10/20/2022 3:31:49 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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Jon,

The UK’s last payment of its $3.75 billion Anglo-American loan was on 29 December 2006; $83m USD. We paid it back over 60 years following a 10 year extension. Most would say the USA had a very high return on the investment - the UK revoked its world power status, you got expedited market access into the Commonwealth, and we spent far more than $40bn over the years on your stuff. You made your money back on it - tenfold.

But there was a lot of talk in America at the time to the effect of, you had better things to spend it on. In retrospect, would the USA have been far better off not getting that market access, not getting a tenfold ROI, but having $4bn more to play with?

It all depends on what America would have done with that $4bn.

Also, the cost of the Cold War to the USA was in the $8 trillion ballpark. If the antis had won their argument that the USA couldn’t afford to give a pal a $4bn loan even with 2% interest, how would they have responded to advance notice that the Cold War would cost $8tn?

Did the Cold War bankrupt the USA?

Thinking along the same lines...

Surely it’s only money down the drain if Ukraine loses, and Russia gets to fulfil its mission to take the Warsaw Pact countries back under the jackboot.

Do you really think the American economy would be in any better shape if Ukraine loses everything and Russia walks away with all the prizes?

(I think this is more likely than not, but cannot see how NATO losing, Russia winning, and China having a far easier time of annexing its neighbors benefits America at all.)


33 posted on 10/20/2022 3:57:54 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: JonPreston

More of our money!
Looks like biden hasn’t paid off his debt to them yet.


34 posted on 10/20/2022 3:59:24 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Kick every last democrat out of office! )
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To: JonPreston; pookie18
From the article:I pray this doesn't come to pass.

Also from the article:

Haven't we all read numerous articles citing the blatant graft and corruption Ukraine is responsible for?

h/t to pookie18's cartoons:


35 posted on 10/20/2022 4:35:59 PM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shots, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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