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Will the Supreme Court impose a Republican government on the US?
msn.com ^ | 10/31/22 | Jim Jones

Posted on 10/31/2022 12:51:35 PM PDT by cotton1706

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To: cotton1706

My take is that the constitution leaves it to the states unless there is non republican form of government as in cheating. A state cannot be allowed to cheat because that effects the entire country. So only if a state enacts rules that cause cheating can they be taken to task by the Federal government. And only to stop the policies leading to cheating. And there are several states doing that. If a state like CA can do whatever they want there then will never be another honest election there every again.


21 posted on 10/31/2022 1:19:59 PM PDT by Revel
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To: cotton1706
The ultra-conservative majority of the U.S. Supreme Court seems poised to make a slight variation in that language. That is, to impose a Republican government on the country by allowing state legislatures to set election rules on their own, without any pesky interference by their governors or state courts.

Only for President, and exactly as laid out by Article II Section 1 of the Constitution:

Section 4 Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

22 posted on 10/31/2022 1:30:03 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: cotton1706

The language in the Constitution was intended to provide a backup to the elector selection process when the legislature in a state determines that an election was illegally conducted or otherwise corrupted and invalid. It specifically removes this important function from the judicial power and places it with “the people” through their representatives.

You can’t assume that representatives will ignore evidence and only vote along party lines in a critical function like this. The same holds for the impeachment process that requires a bipartisan supermajority to remove an executive or judicial branch official from their power.

MSM makes the elitist and snarky assumption that “the people” are too stupid and partisan to manage their own country. Let’s go back to a king or, even better, a dictator.


23 posted on 10/31/2022 1:32:01 PM PDT by Dave Wright (i)
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To: Yo-Yo
There is also Article I Section 4:

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing Senators.
It seems that the states can also direct the manner of holding elections for the Senate and House, but Congress can overrule those laws with their own.

At this time, I'm not aware of any laws that were passed by Congress to direct the manner of holding Congressional elections, but that doesn't mean they won't try going forward.

-PJ

24 posted on 10/31/2022 1:35:42 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: cotton1706

Hilarious. The left is about to go full insurrection.


25 posted on 10/31/2022 1:43:03 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: cotton1706

The stupid burns.

“That is, to impose a Republican government on the country by allowing state legislatures to set election rules on their own, without any pesky interference by their governors or state courts.”

THAT’S WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE CONSTITUTION!!! Legislatures set the rules. Not judges. Not governors. Not bureaucrats. Not the Secretary of State. Hence why there were so many illegal votes in so many states putting this child groping pervert in the oval office.


26 posted on 10/31/2022 1:48:16 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
In case you hadn't noticed my typo, I had originally cited Article I Section 4, but it has the caveat of Congress altering the election terms, which is what gave rise to the Voting Rights Act of 1964, etc.

I then went for Article II Section I because there is no corresponding clause regarding Congress.

27 posted on 10/31/2022 1:50:34 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo
Sorry, I didn't notice.

-PJ

28 posted on 10/31/2022 1:54:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: FlipWilson; Organic Panic
It isn’t contrary to the state’s laws if the legislatures act within the Constitution to set the election law.

The question is can a state legislature ignore that state's constitution?

The very constitution that created the legislature in the first place.

29 posted on 10/31/2022 1:55:12 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: cotton1706

“That is, to impose a Republican government on the country by allowing state legislatures to set election rules on their own, without any pesky interference by their governors or state courts.”

Effing idiot. That is exactly precisely the language of the US Constitution. Governors, AGs and state courts have ZERO constitutional role is selecting electors.


30 posted on 10/31/2022 1:56:06 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

ultra mega dark conservative majority, they meant to say.

I wish!


31 posted on 10/31/2022 1:56:43 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: cotton1706

“impose a Republican government on the country by allowing state legislatures to set election rules on their own, without any pesky interference by their governors or state courts”

Well, that pesky Constitution says specifically that state legislatures set election rules and that Congress can overrule state legislatures. Some citizen enacted laws have been ok’d by the Supreme Ct. (because they are actual state laws).

What the Constuition does not say is that courts and Governors have any say in setting election rules.


32 posted on 10/31/2022 1:59:07 PM PDT by Roadrunner383 (;)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Sorry, I didn't notice.

It was a copy and paste error. I left in "Section 4" in my quote, when it should have said "Section 1"

33 posted on 10/31/2022 2:06:20 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: cotton1706
The SCOTUS would not be "imposing" anything on the country. It would merely be interpreting the ELECTIONS CLAUSE OF THE US CONSTITUTION which specifies: Article I Section 4 “the Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; Notice how it does not say the governor or anybody in the executive branch. Notice how it does not say anybody in the judicial branch. It says the legislature
34 posted on 10/31/2022 2:15:07 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: cotton1706
That comes directly from Article IV, Section 4, of the U.S. Constitution, which emphatically proclaims: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government.”

So the government in California is unconstitutional because they are practicing a form of direct democracy because California citizens are able to propose laws and constitutional amendments without having to go through the legislature.

35 posted on 10/31/2022 2:18:15 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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“So the government in California is unconstitutional because they are practicing a form of direct democracy because California citizens are able to propose laws and constitutional amendments without having to go through the legislature.”

No in those cases the people are acting as their own legislature. It’s still republican since the laws created apply to all.

But it is the closest to an actual democracy as you can get.


36 posted on 10/31/2022 2:33:27 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

This author is a complete idot if he thinks this is an “ultra conservative” court. At best it has two strong conservatives, three raadicals and the rest are neither and sway with case.


37 posted on 10/31/2022 2:59:31 PM PDT by falcon99 ( )
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To: cotton1706

Oh, geee — I dunno -— after all, it’s not as if some superior, governing document like, say, a Constitution contains any relevant language bearing upon the matter, but — just perhaps — if such a document existed, and if it contained language along the lines of States having to guarantee to their Citizens a Republican form of government — that’d be something of a game changer.

Yaknow.


38 posted on 10/31/2022 3:08:38 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin; Vermont Lt
> That and “massive” to mean “large”.

And let's not forget "exponential", also meaning "increasing".

39 posted on 10/31/2022 3:17:43 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: cotton1706

What a bunch of crap! These people are idiots.


40 posted on 10/31/2022 3:27:25 PM PDT by Agatsu77
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