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Will the Supreme Court impose a Republican government on the US?
msn.com ^ | 10/31/22 | Jim Jones

Posted on 10/31/2022 12:51:35 PM PDT by cotton1706

We often hear about the United States having a “republican form of government.” That comes directly from Article IV, Section 4, of the U.S. Constitution, which emphatically proclaims: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government.”

The ultra-conservative majority of the U.S. Supreme Court seems poised to make a slight variation in that language. That is, to impose a Republican government on the country by allowing state legislatures to set election rules on their own, without any pesky interference by their governors or state courts.

The Supreme Court will hear arguments later this year in Moore v. Harper, a case that presents the question of whether a state legislature, acting completely on its own, can set rules governing federal elections in the state, even rules that are contrary to the state’s laws. The facts are that North Carolina’s Republican-controlled legislature approved a new redistricting plan that was struck down by the state’s Supreme Court earlier this year as an “egregious and intentional partisan gerrymander.” The plan violated the state’s constitution, so that should have been the end of it.

But the controversy, which revolves around a few innocuous words in the U.S. Constitution, has been brewing in rightwing legal circles since three Supreme Court members breathed life into them in the Bush v. Gore decision in 2000. The words in Article I, Section 4, say: “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof…” The North Carolina Legislature is asking the Court to decide that these words give it the final say over redistricting and, presumably, all other rules for federal elections held in the state. Their idea is called the “independent state legislature theory” (ISLT).

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 17thamendment; articleivsection4; elections; seventeenthamendment
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They are VERY nervous about state legislatures having the powers that they (before the Warren court, etc.) were originally granted.

They like ALL power being centralized.

1 posted on 10/31/2022 12:51:35 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Jim Jones has drunk the coolaid.


2 posted on 10/31/2022 12:53:07 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: cotton1706

Jim Jones, get the koolaid ready.


3 posted on 10/31/2022 12:53:16 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerorum delenda sunt.)
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To: cotton1706

“… impose a Republican government on the country by allowing state legislatures to set election rules on their own, without any pesky interference by their governors or state courts.…”
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Well, the US Constitution is very clear and succinct on this point.


4 posted on 10/31/2022 12:55:39 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: cotton1706

We’ve had a republican form of government for over 200 years.


5 posted on 10/31/2022 12:56:24 PM PDT by rdl6989 ( )
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To: cotton1706
Soros-controlled AZ Democrat Secretary of State candidate Adrian Fontes - a key architect of the 2020 Maricopa County election theft - had been putting out campaign signs reading "Protect Our Democracy".

His new ones say "Protect Our Republic". Somebody is worried about the messaging...

6 posted on 10/31/2022 12:56:32 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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“Soros-controlled AZ Democrat Secretary of State candidate Adrian Fontes - a key architect of the 2020 Maricopa County election theft - had been putting out campaign signs reading “Protect Our Democracy”.
His new ones say “Protect Our Republic”. Somebody is worried about the messaging...”

Now that’s interesting.


7 posted on 10/31/2022 12:57:27 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
Will the Supreme Court impose a Republican government on the US?

The Supreme Court essentially imposed a Democrat government on the US in 2020.

8 posted on 10/31/2022 12:57:55 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: cotton1706
New definitions incoming:

"impose" - When real, live, actual voters vote and elect Republicans.

"not impose" - When Democrats are allowed to cheat to their hearts content to win elections.
9 posted on 10/31/2022 12:59:17 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: cotton1706

There are no federal elections.


10 posted on 10/31/2022 12:59:26 PM PDT by wny
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To: cotton1706

When reading an article is the writer uses the term “ultra” to describe ANYTHING, stop reading. Ultra is the 2022 version of “very, very.” It indicates the laziness of the writer.

This applies to articles written by the “right” as well.

America has become illiterate. Don’t let it happen to you.


11 posted on 10/31/2022 1:00:44 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Quote: “ . . . .presents the question of whether a state legislature, acting completely on its own, can set rules governing federal elections in the state, even rules that are contrary to the state’s laws”

Where to start here: 1) if the Constitution says that the legislatures are supreme in deciding these matters, then is it really against “state law.” 2) It isn’t contrary to the state’s laws if the legislatures act within the Constitution to set the election law. That is the law.

Typical of the left. They always seek and only recognize the authority that they control or supports their position as being “the law” or “ the authority.”

As to this case, I am sure Roberts will cave. The others I am not so sure of.


12 posted on 10/31/2022 1:02:06 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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“...uestion of whether a state legislature, acting completely on its own, can set rules governing federal elections in the state, even rules that are contrary to the state’s laws. “

This is an oxymoron.

The state legislature makes the state laws. So if the state legislature sets the rules governing the elections in the state, then THOSE ARE THE NEW LAWS


13 posted on 10/31/2022 1:02:30 PM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: cotton1706

Pulling out all the stops aren’t they, eh? I smell Democrat desperation. It smells like victory...


14 posted on 10/31/2022 1:05:17 PM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: cotton1706

Ah, that pesky Constitution again….


15 posted on 10/31/2022 1:05:53 PM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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“ultra-conservative majority of the U.S. Supreme Court”

If only!!


16 posted on 10/31/2022 1:06:04 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (Vim vi repellere licet)
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To: cotton1706

It’s right in the US Constitution and the language is clear. State legislatures set the rules for their state, regardless of what Jim Jones (spit) thinks.


17 posted on 10/31/2022 1:06:39 PM PDT by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ‘No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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To: cotton1706

I can’t believe how evil and communist the media is in America. Not just certain outlets, but EVERY SINGLE “mainstream” outlet, due to rampant nepotism and incestuous relations with DC politicians.


18 posted on 10/31/2022 1:07:34 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: Vermont Lt

That and “massive” to mean “large”.


19 posted on 10/31/2022 1:10:31 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: House Atreides

The constitution says that’s what they’re supposed to do. The other forms are unconstitutional.


20 posted on 10/31/2022 1:15:07 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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