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‘This isn’t war. It’s the destruction of the Russian people by their own commanders’
The New York Times ^ | Dec. 17, 2022 | Anton Troianovski , MICHAEL SCHWIRTZ , Thomas Gibbons-Neff , Adam Entous , Yousur Al-Hlou, Masha F

Posted on 12/20/2022 7:39:44 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

They never had a chance.

Fumbling blindly through cratered farms, the troops from Russia’s 155th Naval Infantry Brigade had no maps, medical kits or working walkie-talkies, they said. Just a few weeks earlier, they had been factory workers and truck drivers, watching an endless showcase of supposed Russian military victories at home on state television before being drafted in September. One medic was a former barista who had never had any medical training.

Now, they were piled onto the tops of overcrowded armored vehicles, lumbering through fallow autumn fields with Kalashnikov rifles from a half-century ago and virtually nothing to eat, they said. Russia had been at war most of the year, yet its army seemed less prepared than ever. In interviews, members of the brigade said some of them had barely fired a gun before and described having almost no bullets anyway, let alone air cover or artillery. But it didn’t frighten them too much, they said. They would never see combat, their commanders had promised.

Only when the shells began crashing around them, ripping their comrades to pieces, did they realize how badly they had been duped.

Flung to the ground, a drafted Russian soldier named Mikhail recalled opening his eyes to a shock: the shredded bodies of his comrades littering the field. Shrapnel had sliced open his belly, too. Desperate to escape, he said, he crawled to a thicket of trees and tried to dig a ditch with his hands.

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1 posted on 12/20/2022 7:39:44 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Thank you. We have a definite shortage of Ukrainian and Deep State propaganda being posted here and trusted sources such as the NYT can help fill the gap. /sarc


2 posted on 12/20/2022 7:43:05 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: House Atreides

3 posted on 12/20/2022 7:47:08 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Only when the shells began crashing around them, ripping their comrades to pieces, did they realize how badly they had been duped.
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Are you talking about the Ukies? It is widely reported Ivan has a 10:1 artillery advantage- 60-80,000 rounds a day being delivered and 99 percent of Ukie casualties are from artillery shrapnel- hence the saying: Vlads meatgrinder.

Under Zelensky’s “ leadership”, Ukraine is being destroyed. Time for negotiations? Of course, long overdue. It is now obvious the war will “ end” on Vlad’s terms.


4 posted on 12/20/2022 7:48:18 AM PST by delta7
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To: House Atreides
Ten months later and you are still Putin Stooging.


5 posted on 12/20/2022 7:48:59 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: House Atreides

Yes, rusky mir is a much better option for millions of people in eastern Europe. Corruption, enslavement, deportation to Siberia, genocide. Who wouldn’t want that?


6 posted on 12/20/2022 7:49:09 AM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: House Atreides

High Five!


7 posted on 12/20/2022 7:49:50 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

That echos what I’m reading outside of the MSM.

Russia is using the WW II tactics of bleeding the enemy with waves of Russians.


8 posted on 12/20/2022 7:50:07 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Berlin_Freeper

How many writers does it take for The NY Times to produce propaganda? How many people from the US government “helped” in writing this “article”?


9 posted on 12/20/2022 7:51:01 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It's almost humorous.

10 posted on 12/20/2022 7:51:50 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The more reporters on an NYT stories, the bigger the lies.

Since Pulitzer started giving away prizes for the biggest lies, there is a pigpile whenever the NYT comes up with a whopper.


11 posted on 12/20/2022 7:51:53 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: FreedomPoster; anyone

From the New York times ehh?
Who remember their fake news from the NYT about Trump a few years ago?

Like this head line:
“ Indictment Leaves No Doubt: Russia Backed Trump.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/us/politics/trump-election-russia.html


12 posted on 12/20/2022 7:52:04 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Ten months later and you are still Putin Stooging.

Ten months later and you are still Biden Stooging.

13 posted on 12/20/2022 7:52:25 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Oh yeah, this is from the New York Times. Maybe I could believe it if were from umm, oh well you can’t believe the New York Times.
Since there is no traditional news source that presents the news I want to here I’ll just object to any existing news outlet. After all Russia is just about to win. And besides the current combat lines are just what Russia wanted all along anyway.


14 posted on 12/20/2022 7:52:50 AM PST by conejo99
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To: Berlin_Freeper

with Kalashnikov rifles from a half-century ago
= = =

So these rifles are worthless, not effective?

And M-16’s are from over a half-century ago, right?

Will today’s M-16 based rifles be considered in the same vein?


15 posted on 12/20/2022 7:53:21 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: BlackbirdSST
Ten months later and you are still Biden Stooging.
As always you are badly confused.
I support Ukraine defending their country against Putin's failing Terror Invasion, not Biden.
16 posted on 12/20/2022 7:55:42 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The fact that this writer describes small arms that are half a century old indicates they know little about how this stuff works. An AK-74 or even an AK-47 are some of the best small combat arms ever made.

I am no fan of the Russians or the invasion...but come on. Do five minutes worth of research.

Even the basic design of the M4 is based on the M16. That basic design hasn’t change since the early 1960s. (Yes I know the M4 is an updated version...but if you know the weapons you would understand my point.)


17 posted on 12/20/2022 8:02:35 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: meatloaf

Hey, it worked at Stalingrad!


18 posted on 12/20/2022 8:03:10 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Vermont Lt

“(Yes I know the M4 is an updated version”

And you know, really it is functionally identical. Just added on a few Barbie for men options.


19 posted on 12/20/2022 8:09:25 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Vlad will need several conscriptions.

How’s the Wagner Group doing with their convicts? Back to the prisons for more replacements?


20 posted on 12/20/2022 8:10:45 AM PST by meatloaf
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