Posted on 12/24/2022 3:25:24 AM PST by Jyotishi
“I agree with you that IQ is not a defense against gaslighting.”
True. And it seemed that the highly educated and professional ladies had a harder time dealing with it. They knew they weren’t stupid, so “how could this happen to ME?” Total embarrassment and depression.
Not all highly educated people have high IQs. Some majors require very little abstract thinking.
The media gaslights Trump endlessly and he lashes out.
Just like Pelosi intentionally let the Jan 6th mob into the capitol building. Then demonizes Trump. Gaslighting in a sense.
I think that a certain level of shamelessness helps too. If you can horrify a narcissist in their opening gambit they will generally run away from YOU!
People are conditioned to it, starting at an early age. Children. You weren’t, keep that in mind.
You’re seeing the results at 30,000 feet. The people today that are up to say, 30 or 40 years old - they’ve been immersed in this $&t 24/7 365 days a year, since the Womb.
Even so, it isn’t working as well (or as fast) as they’d like. That’s why they have gone full YOLO in recent years. People are tuning out, turning off and are about ready to “drop in”. Could be fun.
Some of the easiest people to con are those that think they are really, really smart.
"The January 6 insurrection."
“Have you ever had somebody attempt to “gaslight” you but they couldn’t get anywhere”
I guess fake compliments are like that. How to deal with them?
I told that to my kids from the beginning. The purpose of learning and getting an education is to develop a "BS Meter", and yes, I used that exact term.
I’m not sure how to classify it, but “This particular example of a bad thing happened to me, therefore this particular example is the most common form of that bad thing” seems like a logical fallacy of some sort.
Never said you were.
It would be an interesting study to investigate whether Males or Females are the predominate figure for a gaslighting personality.
Yes, it would be an interesting study. Lacking actual data, we're left with personal opinions based on nothing in particular. Those opinions tell the world more about the people offering the opinion, than they do about the actual subject of the opinion.
I'm gonna guess its Males because they are usually in the position of power.
ROFL!!! My experience of gaslighting outside the political sphere is of people who lack physical power using gaslighting as a way of compensating. I'm gonna guess it's Females because they're usually the one's lacking physical power. See how it works? Lacking actual data, all we can do is make wild-eyed guesses. At least have the honesty to admit it's just a wild-eyed guess.
Experts say ...
Thanks. I just won $20. I bet my wife that you wouldn’t read an article with actual stats. Merry Christmas. LOL!
sit-rep, I’m very sorry that you’ve had such terrible sorrow and suffering.
My parents were both brilliant people and they used that gift to gaslight me and many of the people in their little corner of the world.
When my ex joined the family they took him under their wings and he joined in to create a very unholy trinity.
When I finally realized that they didn’t love or like me I removed myself from their lives. That’s when I began to heal and to realize that there was no way to repair my relationships with them because they only wanted me around in order to use me. For me, the only solution was to cut all ties completely.
Somehow I survived and am now rid of the whole lot of them but the scars they inflicted upon me and very many other people will continue to have an effect for a long time.
One thing that saved me is that, from the time of my very first memories, I have always known that God loves me, no more and no less than He loves any other person. But, I know that He loves me, therefore I know that I’m valuable no matter what my parents ever told me.
The other thing that has helped to cause as little harm as possible for all concerned has been my attempts to do the right thing and not to react in anger or to take revenge. Believe me, this has been very difficult and I’ve failed many times, but the trying has paid off and I’m continually seeing good and even surprising results from my poor attempts to take the high road.
sit-rep, there is hope for real healing and happiness. I’m proof of that. I can’t possibly know what your solution is but I do know that you are valuable and there are people who need you, especially now, with the wisdom you surely have gained from such a terrible suffering.
Also, there is always hope for your relationships with your children. Only yesterday I had a wonderful, joyful surprise and answer to heartfelt prayer that brought me to tears. (Always remember that you are your children’s only father.)
I hope you won’t mind if I pray for you this Christmas. :-)
Mayflower Madam, I worked with abused women and men, too, and that work helped me to understand my own situation better and to deal with it in a healthy way.
Thank you for your work. I’m sure that there are many people in this world suffering less than they would have suffered had it not been for your work.
Don’t spend it all in one place ...
Just be careful!! id feel real bad if I hear in a few days you got hit by lighting!! :P
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