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Zelensky rallies Ukrainians with defiant Christmas message after deadly Russian barrage in Kherson
CNN.com ^ | December 25, 2022 | Sophie Tanno, Dennis Lapin and Robert Iddiols

Posted on 12/25/2022 8:13:28 AM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: Cathi
Intel Republic

Intel Republic? Okay

21 posted on 12/25/2022 9:36:31 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Cathi
This is proven by the traces of the arrival of the defeat elements in the cars in Kherson.

InfoDefenseENGLISH? Great english. Russkies?

22 posted on 12/25/2022 9:39:01 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Williams; Fred Nerks

True....but why are we footing the entire bill? Where are our NATO allies’ contributions of billions?

We keep the Russians from invading Europe but let millions oinvade our southern border?

Yes, we have a hate on for the Ukrainian effort. Mainly because it is slowly destroying America,Biden took the Putin bait.


23 posted on 12/25/2022 9:45:00 AM PST by Candor7
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To: Timber Rattler

I really despise that gay globalist grifter (and Ukraine in general).

Hope he gets fragged soon.


24 posted on 12/25/2022 9:46:59 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (THE FBI INTERFERED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!)
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To: entropy12
Every dollar sent to corrupt Ukraine adds to that ugly debt.

We sent 100 billion to Ukraine last year out of a total 6.6 trillion in spending to neutralize the russian military. US also spent $360 billion on climate change, including 60 billion last year on alleviating climate change inequity.

25 posted on 12/25/2022 9:47:35 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Travis McGee
It is 100% undeniable that this came from Ukraine

Well Tom@tom_username said so, it must be true. Moronic

26 posted on 12/25/2022 9:50:56 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: All

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27 posted on 12/25/2022 10:06:30 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Timber Rattler

What’s with the defensiveness bro? Read the articles on the subject the reports in the amounts spent are directly from store clerks in Europe who served the lady. No one is saying that she took that cash from the American taxpayer. When you say “prove it” you’re implying there was some crime or wrongdoing afoot. THAT implies a feeling of guilt or wrongdoing. So again- why so defensive? It says a lot about you and the Zelenskys, none of it good.

What DOES have to be explained is how “Zelensky” is a billionaire. Where did the money come from? There is no known legitimate source. That makes him the same as any Russian oligarch - a dictatorial criminal and certainly unworthy of Western support. Do you support oligarchs? If not, how can you support the Z man? He’s Russian by the way, a Russian Jew - grew up speaking Russian and spelt his name as Zelenski till a decade ago. He’s a Russkie oligarch, plain and simple. Ukraine is a corrupt dictatorship fighting Russia another corrupt dictatorship. No good guys here as far as nations and leaders go. Their peoples are victims of both Putin AND the Zelenski regimes, not to mention of NATO.


28 posted on 12/25/2022 10:28:51 AM PST by libertarian66
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To: tlozo

And NATO claims are somehow believable? Dude Ukraine and NATO have no more credibility than Russia and Putin. Stop picking and choosing according to media propaganda - you have no idea where the shells came from.


29 posted on 12/25/2022 10:30:51 AM PST by libertarian66
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you have no idea where the shells came from.

Well since russians have been shelling Kherson since they were forced to retreat from it...

30 posted on 12/25/2022 10:36:04 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Travis McGee

This, plus Uke photos stupidly showing HIMARS fragments, indicate yet another false flag to be touted as a Russian atrocity. .

Keeps the outrage up and the Western aid flowing


31 posted on 12/25/2022 10:43:38 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: tlozo

“We sent 100 billion to Ukraine last year out of a total 6.6 trillion in spending to neutralize the russian military. US also spent $360 billion on climate change, including 60 billion last year on alleviating climate change inequity.”

Excellent point. We can’t survive either of your examples of corrupt, extravagant waste.


32 posted on 12/25/2022 10:47:22 AM PST by map
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To: Williams

This from the guy who shut down all the churches in Ukraine?


33 posted on 12/25/2022 10:51:03 AM PST by jagusafr ( )
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To: jagusafr
This from the guy who shut down all the churches in Ukraine?

Post a link to ONE church closed in Ukraine. They are told they cannot be affiliated with the Moscow Patriarch. In russian occupied Ukrainian areas, no churches are allowed to be affiliated to the Kyiv Patriarch.

34 posted on 12/25/2022 11:03:11 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: jagusafr

Wow, you embarrassed yourself with that one.


35 posted on 12/25/2022 11:59:47 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Williams

Agree. As Trump said this is genocide.


36 posted on 12/25/2022 1:54:29 PM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: libertarian66
Read the articles on the subject the reports in the amounts spent are directly from store clerks in Europe who served the lady.

One anonymous store clerk who has never been identified, and the story never confirmed.

And asking for proof against an unsubstantiated allegation, that's likely a product of Russian disinformation, is not being defensive.

And Zelensky is not a billionaire. He made his fortune as an actor and comedian long before he became president in April 2019. You know, like our own celebrities do in Hollywood?

So yeah, show me the proof that Mrs. Zelensky did what she's been accused of. Otherwise, it never happened.

37 posted on 12/25/2022 2:07:02 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: cweese
Prove that it didn't.

How do you prove a negative?

38 posted on 12/25/2022 2:07:39 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: jagusafr
This from the guy who shut down all the churches in Ukraine?

That never happened either.

39 posted on 12/25/2022 2:10:06 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Again you’re calling it an allegation - a word used for a crime or malfeasance. Guilty knowledge is implied. No proof is required - that applies in a court of law. There is substantiated evidence - end of story. Go ahead and prove the evidence is false if you’re so inclined. The standard isn’t proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that ONLY applies in criminal cases. It’s simply a preponderance of evidence, which clearly exists.

Zelenski is a known billionaire oligarch. Stop lying and denying. Your credibility is zero. No he didn’t make a fortune with his ridiculous “comedy” - you have to actually be good at it to make big money. He’s a clown, not a leader. He has a massive fortune and NO explanation of its origin. In any civilized country that’s grounds for investigation - money laundering, racketeering etc.

Zelenski is the Putin of Ukraine. Stop supporting known criminals and dictators. I don’t support Putin and I don’t support Zelenski. You should do likewise.


40 posted on 12/25/2022 2:46:18 PM PST by libertarian66
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