Posted on 01/15/2023 1:17:56 PM PST by JonPreston
Stop flaming.
Soledar was liberated by criminals and thugs. Why waste regulars?
Are you still claiming to have military expertise?
“… an article purporting to be about another article, and full of conjecture and wishcasting. ”
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That’s right… everybody knows that the Ukrainians must NEVER give up Bakhmut. They’ll simply keeps up a constant and NEVER ENDING resupply of fresh Ukrainian conscripts into the city. What’s not to like about that strategy… at least for the armchair generals far from the sound of the meat grinders. LET’S FIGHT TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN! /sarc
You’re projecting.
Here start with this for starters:
Russia is going down as we know it. And thats a pity.
Wagner thugs and convicts will end up taking over Russian society and the Kremlin. It has no backbone anymore.
The next Russian civil war is already under way.
https://cepa.org/article/wagner-victory-new-russian-civil-war-is-now-under-way/
Russia’s going to take down the Ukraine whether NATO, the US, or the Ukraine likes it or not. Maybe the US will escalate the whole thing with nukes.
They're most dangerous when things are bleak.
What’s wrong with being barefoot in the kitchen? I rather enjoy it!
You’re rattling them and living up to your name!
Carry on!
Nothing wrong with it.
Seriously.
“Tiny place like Ukraine”? Literally has well over 40,000,000 people and is receiving a massive amount of free weapons and money, without which they would have collapsed months ago.
“The next Russian civil war is already under way.”
CEPA: 1275 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Suite 400, Washington, DC 20004
So, down the street from the White House. Sounds like another Neocon (wet) Dream operation.
“wet dream OPERATION”... you say?
Look who’s talking...
You never say anything about “the thing” that started the whole mess do you? : Yes, Putin’s botched “SPECIAL OPERATION”!
You warmongers are incredible...
“You warmongers are incredible.”
The warmongers are the ones who used Minsk 2 to ARM UKRAINE, rather than end the conflict (as they STATED last month), and those people are the NEOCONS, supported by the LEFTISTS in the US and Europe.
What confuses us at FR is why people HERE would be supporting those LEFTISTS.
Well, you are supporting the deep-state Kremlin war machine. They are the sons of the Bolschviks - remember?
The Bolsheviks are not rightwingers as you may know. They are communists and they have always supported Stalin. Putin himself said he supports Stalins Soviet Union - by heart.
However, Putin also said that wanting the Soviet Union back wouldn’t be smart - simply because he needs the somewhat capitalistic economy Russia has today.
So effectively what Putin has done is to put in place a “hybrid” system:
Russia is ruled Soviet style, but is happy to keep a capitalist economy. Exactly like China! Same thing - commies running the place but allowing capitalism.
Thus, the far left guy is you. You either don’t realize this yet, or... you just pretend not knowing this.
“Well, you are supporting the deep-state Kremlin war machine.”
Who says I’m supporting them??? I simply want the US out of this crap, it’s not our war.
As to Russia, they’re not the ones trying to take away my gas stove. When they do, I may actually start to fear them.
Buy right now, literally EVERYONE that I hate supports Ukraine, EVERY LEFTIST, everyone who is trying to take away my gas stove, my gasoline car, toilets that flush, and much more more, so I can’t help but question why people are here supporting Ukraine.
How about you guys tell me why I should believe the Left, THIS TIME, given their record on everything else.
Update on the conflict in Ukraine for January 16, 2023.
- Russian forces are consolidating control over and around Soledar to the north of Bakhmut;
- Russian forces are also apparently preparing a much larger encirclement of Bakhmut itself;
- The United Kingdom, in addition to sending 14 Challenger 2 main battle tanks has claimed it is sending 30 AS90 155mm self-propelled howitzers;
- The AS90 is lightly armored and vulnerable to a variety of Russian weapon systems including growing numbers of Lancet loitering munitions;
- The AS90 has a different engine and transmission than the M109s being sent by the US and other NATO members meaning yet another supply chain for spare parts must be created to sustain them on the battlefield;
- The UK only has 117 AS90s meaning London is sending up to 25% of their inventory to Ukraine;
- Claims that the UK is also sending AH-64 Apache attack helicopters appear to be false;
- Apache helicopters would face almost insurmountable logistical, training, and operational challenges in Ukraine;
- Russian military industrial output, even according to low-end estimates by anti-Russian sources indicate that Russia holds a dominant position regarding attrition warfare.
Ok, you are reassuring me that at least you are not supporting the Kremlinists.
You merit high points for that.
I’m starting to understand the way you think.
I say that because I’m a deeply old-fashioned Reagan conservative myself. I was raised according to conservative Christian values. For my family the Soviet Union or Russia its about the same thing, they are operating according to traditional Soviet anti-American algorithms.
I despise the Democrats socialist agenda just as much as you do, and I agree with what you said. They brought the living hell on us : Wokeism, racial war, LGBT absolutism, CRT, burning cities, vandalism, crime waves, the Russia Hoax about Trumps 2016 election (Russia had nothing to do with it), the Covid 19 tyranny, the Dems / big tech / FBI collusion that stole Trump’s Re-Election, the Hunter Biden scandal they put a lid on, and all those “journalists” and media-outlets acting in reality as political institutions for the Democrats, the pro illegal immigration policies, etc, etc,... So yes, we indeed agree that Democrats are attempting to transform America into a madhouse.
However, supporting of the sovereign Ukrainian people against a vicious Soviet-style Russian invasion is a different thing. To me our Christian values are at stake here. This war shouldn’t be politicized as either a Democrat or a Republican thing.
Russia is committing permanent anti-American actions behind our backs, fomenting anti American sentiment all over the planet in an attempt to isolate America and take over our traditional vital business partners. They are starting to succeed. If Russia wins in Ukraine its power would become immense.
Russia’s attack on Ukraine is in reality and foremost a move to diminish the West.
If we let that happen Russias imperialistic expansion will continue in a boosted way.
It will inspire China to invade Taiwan - further isolating America. The domino effect would wreck havoc in Americas economy which can’t function without strong free International nations we are doing business with. We NEED that business, we have so much to sell. America is full of oil, let’s drill and sell it. Let’s become the world’s number one net exporter of oil. But again, we need our international allies for that, our clients. They will buy our oil. Europe is by the way buying from America now - excellent. Allies sticking together against our common competitors and enemies is the only way to go.
So, back to your sentiment where you unfotunatly are linking the support of Ukraine with the Democrat policies… :
Let me put is this way. If Democrats love cigars and cheeseburgers, does that force me to stop smoking cigars and stop eating cheeseburgers? Solely because I don’t want to do what the Dems do?
Of course not. The thing is, there may be exceptional times where Democrat and Republican policies actually happen to coincide.
Preventing Russias renewed appetite for land-grabbing is something we don’t have the luxury to ignore.
It’s not only moral to help now, but Americas economy depend on our allies freedom. Giving them the capacity to continue doing business with us.
All the best,
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