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Ukraine: Possible Bakhmut retreat to pre-empt Russian reprisal
english.almayadeen.net ^ | 1/15/23 | Al Mayadeen English

Posted on 01/15/2023 1:17:56 PM PST by JonPreston

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To: USA-FRANCE

“Let me put is this way. If Democrats love cigars and cheeseburgers, does that force me to stop smoking cigars and stop eating cheeseburgers? Solely because I don’t want to do what the Dems do?”

Democrats have mostly outlawed smoking (except weed) and are trying to outlaw beef. So, yes, these are two good examples that one can set their moral compass to simply be opposite of the Democrats.

As far as Ukraine, I know that I’m being played by the Democrats and the Media, as it’s happened throughout my life, be it Kosovo, Syria, Egypt, Vietnam - but THIS TIME, I can finally reach other sources, and so i know it’s yet another repeat of being lied to. So, like most of the world (other than the West), I tune out the Western Media, and ONLY THEN make my call. And this black and white crap that the Western Media is serving up turns much more gray, to say the least.


61 posted on 01/16/2023 10:43:12 AM PST by BobL
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“I tune out the Western Media”
“...THIS TIME, I can finally reach other sources...”

Here is my advice. Don’t tune out ALL Western media. There is still some good Western media to find.

What alternative media are you listening to? Listening to our enemies media? That media is an anti-american warmongering mess. They are pushing nonstop for Americas demise and complete destruction.

Thanks to VPN, I can see Russian TV. It’s non stop heinous psychotic anti America bashing. Nearly every day they talk about how to nuke America and Europe. Russian TV is 100% violent propaganda outlets. Don’t trust that kind of media.

Also, don’t trust media that pushes for Americas isolation either. Because an isolated America is exactly what the Russia-Iran-Chechnya war coalition wants.
China want an isolated america too.


62 posted on 01/16/2023 11:08:51 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

“There is still some good Western media to find.”

True, NPR let the truth about Syria slip out - it was 100% OPPOSITE of what the rest of the media was feeding us. At that point, I knew that I was right about Syria - the Neocons were siding with the Terrorists, at the expense of the Christians there.

As to Russian media, the crap I read here, some of it on THIS SITE is far worse, since it’s not the Russians that are starting wars with STATED PURPOSE of killing Americans and then behaving like they had nothing to do with it - as we did with Russia. They have EVERY RIGHT to be pissed. It’s a repeat of the Syrian model, except against a nuclear power that could blow us off the map at the push of a button. The fact that the Neocons were not stopped earlier may well be the end of the USA.


63 posted on 01/16/2023 11:20:14 AM PST by BobL
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“”It’s not the Russians that are starting wars with STATED PURPOSE of killing Americans””

The irony here is... if “Neocon” means warmonger. Then the Kremlin is overflowing with “Neocons”. Yes, Russian Neocons.

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“They have EVERY RIGHT to be pissed”

The Russians have the right to be pissed about what ??
THEY are the ones starting wars and financing oppressive regimes against Americas interests : Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Iran...
THEY are the ones annexing regions and countries, and russifing places all over the world !

Has America annexed anything for the past century ?? The answer is NO.
We don’t do that. We are not imperialists. We are not like Russia.

So WE are the ones who should be “pissed” concerning Russias imperialist invasive behavior. It’s clearly NOT the other way around.

Russia is in bed with Ultra ISLAMIC Iran, and use Islamic soldiers sent by the Chechnya Government to fight in their elligal invasion of Ukraine.

Contrary to your scruples to play it nicely with such entities, THEY on the other hand are unhinged in collaborating with extreme Islamic anti American allies, which are constantly undermining Americas interests in the world and as we speak.

You let them go unhinged, turning a blind eye to what they do to us and our allies, while at the same tying our own hands behind our backs so we can’t react and try to slow their imperialist expansion.

I don’t understand your philosophy.


64 posted on 01/16/2023 11:57:20 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

“The Russians have the right to be pissed about what ??
THEY are the ones starting wars and financing oppressive regimes against Americas interests : Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Iran...
THEY are the ones annexing regions and countries, and russifing places all over the world !”

If people like you could channel 10% of your anger at what you seem to think is still the Soviet Union - instead towards CHINA, the US may not be on the verge of being destroyed.


65 posted on 01/16/2023 12:14:28 PM PST by BobL
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“”If people like you could channel 10% of your anger at what you seem to think is still the Soviet Union - instead towards CHINA, the US may not be on the verge of being destroyed.””

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When it comes to China, yet another ultra dangerous communist regime, I have denounced them repeatedly here on FR. However, as it stands right now they are not INVADING sovereign nations! That why Russia remains the hot topic, and not China.

Trust me, the day China decides to invade Taiwan... I will express myself non stop here on FR.

The thing is when it comes to Russia, Putin has apparently succeeded quite well with his smoke screens, trying to blind the west from the truth in making it believe that Russia has abandoned Soviet principles... Even I fell for it for some time. I thought Putin wasn’t too bad..
But God how wrong I was! Indeed, Putins unhinged Soviet-era style invasion and destruction of Ukraine has awakened me from my naivety.

The Soviet Union 2.0 is here now. The whole mess is back !

We need to be pro-russian people, while being fundametally against deep-state Kremlin policies.

Reagan knew how to manage this. He mad us won the Cold War.


66 posted on 01/16/2023 12:49:00 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: JonPreston

things must be very very bad for Z-ski given the recent amount of Zeeper propaganda!
things are bad for Z again today.
Wagner has captured the Sil railway station along with adjacent residential area.
Fighting continues at Salt Mine #7.
The Soledar mop up may take a few more days.
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If the attack on Krasna Gora captures high ground, m-03 road which brings supplies from Slavansk would be within artillery range..bakmut northwest encirclement advancing...
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Wagner advancing around Klesheevaka..High ground there would bring the supply road from Constantinovka in artillery range..Bakmut southwest encirclement advancing.
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I wouldn’t want to be in Bakmut.Biden don’t care about the last Ukrainian!

today’s update from Mil summary channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPk1LJLEbU


67 posted on 01/16/2023 1:10:35 PM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: USA-FRANCE

By the time China starts invading countries, they will be an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE stronger than us, and will be aligned with Russia (you can thank your brilliant Neocon friends for that) - and it will be FAR TOO LATE for you guys to bitch and whine.


68 posted on 01/16/2023 10:32:17 PM PST by BobL
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69 posted on 01/16/2023 10:43:23 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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